Hello everyone and welcome to Full Time Travel. Time to Travel Time. Time. We have a very exciting guest today as someone who's been a friend of ours for many years and we're super excited to have in the podcast studio. Kim, can you introduce our famous guest? I am so excited to introduce our famous guest, Anne Laura Moore.
Thank you for coming on the show today. We're really excited, glad to be here, but let's tell everyone about you of what I think I do know about you. So Anne Laura Moore is an author, an adventurer, and a philanthropist who holds a Guinness World Record as the oldest person to summit Mount Kilimanjaro.
Not once, but twice. She's climbed mountains all over the world, including several fourteeners here in the us, Machu Picchu, and even [00:01:00] Australia's. Airs Park Airs Peak. I'm sorry you, I knew I'd butcher the name regardless. And that was back when Australia permitted you to climb that one too. But Anne's story isn't just about conquering peaks, it's about lifting others as well.
She's the founder of the amazing non-profit Creating Exciting Futures, which is dedicated to helping underprivileged youth unlock their potential. Her life has recently been featured in an award-winning, I can say that now in an award-winning documentary film called Ann Everlasting. And today she joins us to share the lessons, the leaps and the legacy beside but behind this exciting journey.
I'm like getting caught up over my words already 'cause I'm excited. So thank you Anne. We're super excited to ask you a bunch of questions about your life today. And I'll be happy to answer. Awesome. Yeah. So we met Ann, it's gotta be like seven years ago at least now. Yeah. Um, we, we met her at a very awesome networking community, shout out Eliances mm-hmm.
[00:02:00] In Arizona here. And you know, honestly, the first time I met you, I was kind of blown away. And I remember we actually, uh, you were one of the first people that I like set up a meeting with out of Eliances. Like, uh, I remember we went to like the mall together. Yeah. Yeah. And you were wearing a hot pink shirt.
A I remember we went a fashion square mall, bring back the hot pink shirt today, which was awesome. And, um, yeah, just really kind of just blown away by your, your passion, your, your drive, you know, just your go-getter ness. Yeah. So, you know, I know you, you've accomplished some amazing things, obviously becoming the oldest person ever to climb Mount Kilimanjaro.
When did you really realize that like you were an adventurer. I, I don't know. I've always felt that I was adventuresome, but I've said many times, I'm not a professional climber. I loved climbing since I was a little girl, but I thought if I can combine my love of climbing and my desire to get support for my kids, then I'd do that and it would be great.
Awesome. That sounds [00:03:00] like a great lifestyle. And I guess we should ask the most obvious question now too, right? Isaac? Yeah, go ahead. How does it feel, Anne, to be a movie star? Well, I tell you, I'm beginning to feel a little bit that they do with everybody who's coming up and talk to me, and I'd sit down to read a book or something and I'll come.
So you wanna be nice to your, your fans? So I did for now at least, right? Until you're, until you're that big. And then you're like, please give me my space. You're gonna have like the shades on and the the hood over your head. No. Anna is always gonna be saying hi to fans. I know. I agree. I'd like to be accessible.
I do. Absolutely. And in regards to your movie Ann Everlasting, which I'm so grateful Isaac and I got an opportunity to see it because it was not only sold out all three days of Phoenix Film Festival, but it even sounds like you guys added another day and that was sold out too. Right? Exactly. Yeah. Yes.
But how does it feel for you, I mean, watching a film about your own life must be kind of surreal. What emotions come up when you [00:04:00] watched your own film? I was just blown away by the expertise of the director. Uh. I felt that she was wanting to do a good film, so I cooperated and answered any question she asked and, but I didn't expect a lot of it to be used.
I thought it would just be background to let her know more about me to what to choose to put out. But she did it beautifully and, and there's things I probably have never told anybody in my life and some people that have known me forever say, well, I learned a lot about you, so, okay. Wow. I mean, I'm out there now because I care about my cause and if I have to, if that's what it takes, that's what I'll do.
I love that you mentioned that in the movie too. It's like, well, Zayna wants to film a question again. I gotta go over here and answer. It's just, it's such a real, authentic movie of like a real life experience that's not, it didn't feel like it was a movie that's directed and like not real, I guess, if that makes sense.
It, it doesn't feel phony, does it? Yeah, no, she just got to, what I might say is the real me. Yeah. Yeah. Well, and I found myself tearing up. During it. I found myself laughing [00:05:00] during it, you know, I found myself in awe during it. I mean, that's what a good movie does, you know? So, you know, it's really amazing.
And Zayna says that there are points in it. Well, she still cries when she sees it. Aw. That's because she got to experience it from a whole different perspective too. Like, shout out to Zayna. She did an incredible job, this film together. Fantastic job. And, and learned how to climb a mountain in the process.
Yes. 'cause she'd never climbed before. Yeah. Has she climbed anything before? Apparently, no. I, I had talked to her about it. She'd never really climbed before. This is, her first climb was Malcolm Gilman, which is extremely courageous. It's wild. She's like, you know what? I, she was as determined as you were about your cause.
About her cause Yes. I think maybe that's why you guys have so much great chemistry together. She's like, I'm determined I'm gonna make this film happen. Yes. Yeah. She's wonderful, I think. And so I really wanted to ask you, you know, for me, mountains are like kind of spiritual for me. Like they really like make such a huge impact.
And, you know, for us, like climbing some of our mountains really changed our [00:06:00] lives. Climbing's , Mount, uh, CIO together, our first climb, him and I and Oh yeah. CIO Peak. Yeah. And like, we had never climbed, we never really climbed a mountain before. And it, like, that was tough as one of our first ones tough.
It was tough and, but it, like, it almost like opened up the door to like, wow, this is amazing. Yes. And so, I know you've climbed quite a few mountains. You've climbed, uh, multiple fourteeners here in the US including Pikes Peak. Yeah. Which we've just driven to the top of. We haven't climbed that in. Oh my gosh.
Yeah. Um, and, and, and you know, the, the, that famous rock in, uh, Australia Air, air Rock. Air Rock, which, you know, I lived a year in Australia and I didn't even get to go out there 'cause it's so isolated. I mean, it is a. Far away from anything. Mm-hmm. Um, you know what, what, when you're climbing these mountains, what do you learn about yourself and how does it inspire you?
You know, there's something in the, the scripture that says, I shall lift up my knives into the hills from when it's come with my help. And I, that's always spoken to me, and I just feel that they do. I, I feel them internally. I, I really [00:07:00] love climbing mountains. Yeah. And love being in forests, anything of nature.
I love a great deal, and as I said, being able to combine my passion for climbing with my passion for kids was wonderful. Yeah. Yeah. Amazing. And I know for Kim and I, you know, we are not your typical mountain climbers, right. I have asthma, Kim, actually, when you first met Kim had steel bars in her chest, right?
That was my nickname in the, in the group, right? Mm-hmm. The networking group. I was Bionic Woman Bio, that's how I was introduced every time. And so we hike mountains a bit slower than most people, but we always complete them. We get to the top. Mm-hmm. And you know, you obviously as you're aging, you might be moving a little bit slower, but that doesn't mean you're not getting to the top and you're not, you know, you are accomplishing these things.
How does it, you know, does it feel as you're, you know, getting older, obviously things may be a little bit more challenging, but does that make like the summit even more rewarding? I don't know about that, but I do know that I tell people up front, I said, I'm not setting any speed records anymore. Only [00:08:00] age records.
When I was younger, I always led the pack. Yeah. And I, I miss that, but on the other hand, I get a great deal of enjoyment out of climbing still. Absolutely. Very go. I mean, in addition to that too, like you always love pushing boundaries like this. This sounds like even after watching Anna Everlasting, I feel like this has been like your internal motive, even since you were younger too.
But what drives you to keep doing what money would consider? Like Too hard or it's too late for me to do this because I'm too old. Or climbing Mount Kilimanjaro is considered hard. I have a motto that it's never too late to learn and grow. Now I've made some adaptations and then John Muir was on my side.
He said, you should amble not speeds your life. So I, I agree with that. Oh, we agree with anything John Muir says. So, yeah, but anything that lets you do the things you wanna do, you wanna keep doing them until you can't do it any longer. And that hasn't happened to me yet. And I, I'm glad you say that too, because age [00:09:00] is just a number.
Right? Exactly. It's literally, it's what you're capable of with your mind. You can choose how you want to feel, how you want to think, what you want to do, even is there a belief you may be, I feel like the answer is no. But is there maybe a belief you once had about aging or physical limitations that you now know is just absolutely not true?
Oh, actually I did. Oh, um, when I was 20, I wouldn't wanna admit it. They used to be saying women should marry and they should marry young. And I. Wasn't and didn't want to, and yet I felt like I'm, I'm gonna be aging out of everything. So, uh, one time I took my whole age and put it 10 years younger when I was going to a new place and I thought, nobody's gonna say I'm old because this, I'll just say, and I took my brother's age instead of mine.
Oh my gosh. And people would believe you, right? They did. Yeah. They believed me. And there wasn't as much checking of IDs as there nowadays. Well, and also your spirit is quite young as well, so that, that's a dead giveaway on like, oh no, she, she couldn't possibly be 94 right now. Like, [00:10:00] no way. No way. Well, my doctor said, as it said in the movie, that I'm, I have the biological age of many of his patients, 30 years younger.
So, great. And, and I love, you've come up with all these amazing taglines. Like Kim and I actually quote you sometimes and you know, one of your tagline is, I'm Anne Lamore and I'm just getting started. Mm-hmm. Which I think is amazing. Well, you didn't put in that I'm 94 years young and I'm just getting started.
That's an important piece of it. I think it's, we can't technically say we're 94 7. No, no. But what you can say is what you can say. Yeah. Very cool. And I know you've mentioned it a little bit, but I want to, and we're gonna talk about it a bit more later on in the podcast, but you've mentioned, you know, your cause, which is called Creating Exciting Futures.
How has, you know. Formulating this cause and working on it really helped drive you to like keep pushing yourself? Well, I'm certain it has, but I just think that there's so many kids out there that are smart and deserve a chance, and a lot of them think that if they're. Parent was a street [00:11:00] sweeper.
That's what they gotta be. Not true. Mm-hmm. I, I want them to know that there are options for everybody. And once you know the options, then you get the tools to do what you wanna do. And you do it and you love it. And I, I love the expression that if you love what you do, you never work a day in your lives.
Mm-hmm. I think that's important. And the other thing I liked so much was the saying that the majority of men lead lives of quiet desperation. Mm-hmm. I don't want that for my kids. I want them to love life. Mm-hmm. And go out. And then give back eventually. And I love hearing you say my kids too, because we are all your children and like we live through you.
We live with you, like creating exciting futures. And of course your your own daughter too, but I hear you on that. Yes. I'm thinking about the scholarship kids and I want them to grow 'cause I've done several things with them. Sent them to an entrepreneurial bootcamp and given them a youth Toastmaster. So they'll be able to speak articulately and comfortably with whatever, no matter what they choose to do.
That will be helpful to them. Yeah. Financial literacy. I wanna push [00:12:00] that. There's just so many things I wanna give them. Oh yeah. And they are my kids. Yeah. Yeah. Well, and I think it's amazing. I mean, Kim honestly didn't know a lot of these pathways until she met me. She didn't even know that entrepreneurship was honestly a thing that she could achieve.
No, I don't, I don't even know anyone really in my. My life, like friends or family that even really talked about or used the word entrepreneurship, even though I clearly have entrepreneurs in my family. Yeah. Your, your grandma's quite a successful entrepreneur. My grandpa, my mom's brother. Like, I, I definitely can see it, but it wasn't like a common topic of conversation for me to have learning opportunities.
Like you're talking about Anne, where I'm like, oh, what is this entrepreneurship, how do I do it? It was just like, oh, my family has jobs. But if you, if you did have a grandmother that was an entrepreneur and you saw that it, that was helpful. Some kids don't have that. Yeah. They don't do anything but jobs that they moan as they go to every day.
Yeah. And they think that's, to your point, the way of life. Like, oh, this is just what I have to do. Exactly. Yeah. So, and I wanna show them they don't have to, [00:13:00] and I'm not a snob about it. I've got a lot of formal education, but if the kid. Really wants to be a plumber or he wants to be a carpenter. We need all those people.
Absolutely know what your choices are. Don't just go into a blind, don't settle. Well, and nowadays it's almost not even a choice to go into the trades. You know, the trades for our generation were kind of looked down upon and now we're seeing like, no, those are extraordinarily useful skills that are wildly needed in our society.
Um, and profitable a lot of the times too. They're so busy. Most of my generation that went in the trade are making far more than the people who went through a four year degree without the debt that came along with it. You know? Yeah. That, that's true. I've never been a snob about it, and I'm glad to see that it's becoming more widely accepted generally.
Absolutely. 'cause you know, I really believe everyone is put here and has a skillset, and I think when you're the most happiest, it's when you're doing your gift that also benefits your community. That's Isaac and then, and if you have that gift, you probably love it, but be sure you do if you don't go find something else.[00:14:00]
Exactly. Exactly. So I think one of my favorite songs though, I have to show you it. If you've never heard of it before, you know the band, dirty Heads heard of it. Uh, they have a song called Vacation and it's like something along the lines of every day I feel like I'm on vacation because I love my occupation.
Okay. Like that's exactly what, it's really catchy. I like that. I'll send it to you. I that, but that's like my theme song for life. Like I just want to enjoy what I'm doing and love what I'm doing. And then it doesn't feel like a job. It feels like we're doing great things in the world and making a difference, which is fun.
Remember I said the same thing to you, that if you love what you do, you never work a day in your life. Exactly. Yeah. So speaking of children and everything that you do with your nonprofit, I wanna go back to your childhood. I can't wait to ask you this question, but if you could sit down with your younger self.
Okay. Before your bi big, like first adventure, what would you say to her? What kind of advice would you give [00:15:00] her? I would like to say to her, you're enough. You're okay. You're not ugly. That self-confidence, it, that was something we all liked and I found out to my amazement that all my wonderfully exciting brothers and sisters all have a lack of self-confidence, and I think it is because of the perfectionism of my mother.
Mm-hmm. Who we never, what we did was never nothing, and she didn't mean it bad. She wanted us to be the best, but it still affected us. Everyone. It sounds like it's really hard to be a parent, Isaac and I don't have that personal experience, but it doesn't seem to matter what kind of mother you are to your children.
It always leaves an impression in a way that you may not think will affect your children, you know? I'm sure it does. But I was a nanny for a professor while I was in grad school, and his wife was wonderful with the kids. And I told somebody that [00:16:00] she was never crossed with them and she looked at me and she says, wow, well, well different story.
That's funny. Um, so I know, you know, Kim wasn't even here, but as we were walking in, Anne let me know that she's actually visited over a hundred countries now. Ooh. Which is pretty amazing from, you know, those a hundred countries. Is there one that really stands out as unexpected? Like you went there and you weren't expecting something and then it was just like, wow, this is really quite amazing, or this is such a different type of culture?
I think probably. Egypt. Hmm. I, I went there and it, it just, I knew about the pyramids and things like that, but it just seems people were so different. There was little things that you saw happen. They, they're the guy that irons on the street and he has a little pot. He takes his mouth, a little water and sprays it, all of the clothes and irons and, I mean, wow.
I never heard of such a thing. Interesting. So somebody pointed it out to me. That's what he was doing. I, I didn't notice that. Just a lot of things were so [00:17:00] different and, and then it was while, um, somebody was being pretty stricter with 'em over there. So I saw the belly dancers and, and, and I was, they're very skilled and very interested.
Yeah. But. They, he had made them, instead of having bare mid midriffs, they had a sort of a sheer thing over their middle that they wore with their dancing. Just a lot of interesting things that, did you join them Anne? I could see you actually didn't, but I do love to dance. You right about that. That's fun.
Yeah. I think traveling is so amazing 'cause you just see things you never would've comprehended worth things and you get to experience things and like. I actually got trapped in London for a week, and I, I don't know why when I went to London, I just, I, I just didn't expect it to be a very cool place and I ended up falling in love with it after spending a week there.
I mean, it was just like an amazing place. The tube makes so much. Sense. You know, I still say to Kim sometimes, please mind the cap. You know, you do you still do that? Well, I, I love the double Decker buses. Mm-hmm. [00:18:00] And even when they didn't want me to, I'd always go up there so I could see everything. Yeah.
And great markets and like the, the Free Museums, epic Museums Museum, fa fascinating, unbelievable. I museum and quaint old areas where they have houses back from what, the 14 hundreds, 12 hundreds or whatever. Just exciting things. That's gorgeous. And lots and lots of writers there. And they'll have sort of shrines to them where they grew up.
I loved England. Loved, oh, the history and the culture and I love that. Like what you're talking about Egypt and you're talking about London. Like you go to all these different places and we can kind of come home then with all the new things that we've learned and kind of make our own recipe of things like, oh, let me try spitting water onto my, let's see if I can do that.
Exactly. That's, that's unique. That's. Different. It, it, I think traveling is the most broadening thing I know. Mm-hmm. And you do take it home with you. Yeah. And when you see people over there and they say, well, where can I find a McDonald's? They're missing a lot. They just don't know what they don't know though.
Exactly. Yeah. So I'm [00:19:00] out there open to all the experiences there are, try the exotic cuisine. Mm-hmm. You know, just do all the things. Go into the shops and see what they have that's so different. And it's amazing where we think that everything would be the same. It's not. No. And so you learn a great deal.
Well, and again, they come up with solutions to problems that you couldn't have comprehended. Yeah. And like, so for, one of the things we brought back from traveling three months in Europe was, um, we now hang dry our clothes 70% of the time. Yeah. But we got a European drying rack, which the drying racks are far superior to our, so much better.
Our clotheslines. I always thought that you had to hang dry on a clothesline because like. I don't know. I thought that's what my grandma and everyone else did. It wasn't until, and a drying rack is, you know, they're bulky and weird. I don't know. It wasn't until we discovered the European drying rack that folds Yeah.
Folds into a thin little slit. And it opens this way and this way, and then it has a bottom rack. Oh. And knows this way. And this way. It's like I've been missing out and then my clothes last longer. Mm-hmm. Like, they don't pill and everything. I know. You know, but we [00:20:00] didn't know, Anne, we didn't know until we had to travel outside the country to learn.
Wow. What I started learning young. When I was very young. He had to scrub our clothes on a washboard for a while and then hang them. And, but my father was pretty inventive, so he took bicycle wheels and he made us a clothes line. You stood in one spot under a shelter and rolled it out. Okay. And I thought, I didn't know it existed.
It does. But, but I didn't know it. And, and he and he didn't know it either. He invented it. It was wonderful. That's creative though. Yeah, he was, he was extremely creative. My father inventive. That's amazing. Wow. Very cool. Yeah, and you know, the other thing that's really struck us in Europe that again we didn't know was they use a completely different wheat.
Like here in America, oh, almost everything is cooked with enriched wheat flour. And in Europe it's, it's Durham wheat semolina where they fine mill the flour and we digest it differently. And instead of feeling tired or bloated after eating something like a big bowl of delicious pasta or bread, we actually feel more energized after eating it.
It's like, why? [00:21:00] Why isn't somebody teaching us this? Like you said, it broadens our minds to go travel and then we're like, wow, how can we make this happen here in America? Where can I find these ingredients? How can I start making my own things? Like just, yeah, it gets your mind going. And it is amazing that there are the little shops around from the various cultures where you get the kind of thing you want.
Like yeah, I love the BCL V from the Mid East, and so you can find those if you really look and a lot of other things that are so good. Yeah. May I, yeah, go ahead. So talking about this, you've had a lot of different experience throughout your life from rotary phones, which I also had by the way, to smartphones, from handwritten letters to AI is now a thing now, but through it all, you've kept moving forward regardless of these changes.
How has being a traveler helped you stay open and grounded and maybe even inspired as the world around you has evolved so much? I think it has helped because you see that other [00:22:00] people have adjusted to a different kind of life and different kinds of, uh, artifacts and all that sort of thing. Mm-hmm. But I do miss some of the old things just Oh, me too.
Me too. I don't miss the sound of the DSL that I, I still actually have a rotary phone that a friend gave me when the military was getting rid of it. Wow. And it can be handy on the days when electricity goes out. I can call out on that phone. Oh my gosh. It's pretty handy. And the telephone lines are still li late.
That's wild. That very, I wouldn't have known that. That's wild. Well, it helps. Is it just a basic black looking phone? Yes. A kind with the rotary dial. Mm-hmm. And, and it works just fine, but I don't, it's, it's inconvenient when you wanna push in things. That's so funny. But on the other hand, when there isn't anything else, it's really handy.
I was honestly hoping you'd say no, Kim, it's in the shape of a hamburger. Rotary. They did have those two. We had one like me. Only you, only you. Mine was just. An old one that the military was throwing out and my friend gave it to me and That's funny. It's been [00:23:00] handy to have That is handy. No. One thing Kim and I have talked about that seems at least to us, that it used to be very prevalent in culture and yet it's very hard to find now is like dance socials.
Oh yeah. Like we really think that that's something seriously missing for our generation. Did you go to dance socials growing up? Was dancing like just part of a cultural get together regularly? I'm gonna fool you, Isaac. I grew up with a family where dancing was evil. Oh yeah. But what I did do, I felt rhythm.
And so my sister and I used to go out in the woods and we'd do something called fairy steps, and it's awfully close to what people do when they're dancing. Okay. So we did that fairy steps, that's like the cutest, we called it fairy steps. I love that. Ferries in the forest. It was just fun to prince around in the forest.
But then when I got older, we did have dances at the nursing school that I went to. And some other places I've gone that international house, they'd have dances occasionally. And I enjoyed those. Yeah. And when I, when I worked nursing school and, and we, [00:24:00] there weren't any men around, we danced with the girls, so you learn to do what you needed to do.
And then later on I did take dance lessons because I wanted to be better. I, I like to be good at the things I do. Yeah. And it did help a lot and it gave me a lot more self confidence. Were the lessons about a certain type of dance. Arthur Murray. It offers you almost everything. Um, we had, I learned, uh, samba and Roomba and Mambo and of course waltz and foxtrot and, and it was fun to be able to feel comfortable.
The waltz was one of my favorites. Yeah. You know, a lot of diverse dancing. That was, uh, our second date I took, uh, Kim Salsa dance. Uh, no swing dancing. Swing dancing, let me correct it. That was another one we learned. He tried to do that, but he took us to this dance group. And what I didn't know, I thought I'd be dancing with Isaac.
And then they were like, surprise. It's like speed dating and they just pass you to the next person all the way around the circle so everyone gets an experience. We did that in international house [00:25:00] sometimes. Yeah. And it was fun when you had all these foreign students. It was interesting. And you get to meet people, which is cool.
It was just like, we are going on a date. I, I thought, and I was dancing with a lot of other men, but at least you met a lot of people and it can be fine. I did, yeah. And I got her a bit jealous when she saw me dancing with, uh, some of the other ladies. Sweeter fan and stuff. I know, I know. Well, it helps if you can just not be jealous, you know, just, just realize this person is, cares about you and, uh, worry.
Don't worry about the rest of it. Oh, it makes life easier. It help beat the heat or, or build the heat, I should say, because then I'm beat the heat, beat the head. What does that even mean? I meant build the heat because then I look at him across the room and I'm like, I and him. I'm like, okay, I can't wait to get closer.
So yes. All right, Isaac, are you ready? Yeah. Yeah. Let's do it. And it is time for game time. Oh. Are you prepared for this? All all of these games are surrounded with an isms. So the first game is called And Sirs Get it. Ann Sirs serves [00:26:00] answers. Like, answers like you have to answer. Oh, answers. Answers. But your name is in Ann.
Oh, okay. She's very proud of this. She's very, let's, let's see what I know. So, and if it's modern, I won't. But if it's no historical, I know quite a lot. You just have to use your brain. Okay. Let's see. So, we'll, we'll see how, well, it's a rapid fire question and answer game. So you can only give me one word as your answer.
Ready? I know if you can't see her face right now, you should watch YouTube and watch her face reaction. But number one, what's the best thing about being 94? Oh, the one word. One word. Youthful. Ooh. What's a smell that instantly takes you back to childhood? Food. Ooh. What's one place in the world? You could eat lunch every day forever.
France. Ooh, that's a great answer. Yeah. What's the last thing you remember laughing [00:27:00] really hard at? I was, well,
I told her, Kim said this game. I was like, Kim, this is a really tough game. All right. Name, name the person that you laughed really hard at last, or with
film festival. Film festival. I will accept. Last question. What's something people totally misunderstand about getting older?
Useful. Now I, I wanna hear this story though, about when you laughed really hard. I know, I know. So, all right, lay it out. Yeah. Yeah. So actually, tell us the story I was just thinking about. Somebody getting not, he was not in, in tune with things, but somehow it just was funny and it was kept saying things that I kept laughing because they made no, you know, they made no sense.
It's nonsensical. Yes. [00:28:00] And it wasn't doing it on purpose, it's just that it kept coming out. And I kept laughing and laughing, thinking, well, that person doesn't know quite what he's saying. But it is funny. But it's funny. Yes, it's very funny. That's hilarious. That's good. And France? France is a good answer.
I could never get tired of French food. Oh no, I know. But I love Italian too. Oh yeah, me too. It's just the, the French have such like it's art that you're eating. The exquisite taste of things. The creative flavors. The creativity in general. Like we had a burger. On top of a bed of arugula surrounded by baby fingerling potatoes.
Right. How beautiful was that? I was like, oh, this is different. Like something so simple. And in Paris when I went there the first time, I got to go to several of the pretty exquisite res and then to some of the ones at the working menus, which also had very good food. Yeah. That's what we found about, you know, France, is that you could get like extremely high end, you know, food there, but you could also get pretty [00:29:00] affordable food.
And yet all of it is, is phenomenal at its different levels, you know, and still quality as well. And to us, a big culture shock in France was like they, most French restaurants do not have menus. They literally write down on a chalkboard what they have that day, and they bring that chalkboard and be like, this is what we got.
Or then bring you the chalkboard and be like, oh wait, and then go, yeah, we're out and cross off. We're out of this because, because it's all fresh ingredients every day. So they can't have a menu because they don't know what. Necessarily they're gonna even have for ingredients the next day. Right? Yeah.
When we went there and we had zucchini for every meal, because that was what, in season? That was that In Italy. Oh, Italy actually. Yeah. So it was like zucchini pizza. Zucchini as your side. Zucchini, everything. Yeah. And, and zucchini breads aren't good at too. Oh yeah. But anyway. They had this, I don't know if they still have it.
I think it was al in, in uh, Paris, where they had this great, great big market and they go out every day and buy their things there. Oh yeah. And, and it was delicious. But the point my daughter says to me is always, it's gotta be totally, totally fresh. Mm-hmm. Yeah. [00:30:00] Because you got that then you got a good start.
Yeah. Yeah. And that is one thing, you know, we miss coming back to America too after like living in Europe for some months is coming back and like, I wanna be able to like go to the market and buy fresh produce, go to the bakery, go to the butcher, and go to all these separate places. But they're kind of hard to find in America.
Yeah. You have a good butcher for us here in Phoenix at 'cause we haven't found a great butcher yet. Well, there's one on 16th Street that I think is pretty good if he's still there. Okay. He had nice fresh food and some of the farmer's markets, there's one in Mesa, there's one over on, uh, cactus. Mm-hmm.
Road in Phoenix that have some very wonderful fresh food. Oh yeah. Some of you. So they're growing it in front of you. Yeah. The farmer's markets are great actually in Arizona, like the old town, Scots. Sale one Phoenix. We have a couple huge, I mean, and the vegetables are huge. And fresh. And fresh, totally.
Most importantly. All right, ready for part two of our game? You got, you got another part two? Oh, you know I do. I had all the ans I told you. Yeah. So this one is called instinct [00:31:00] reactions and Stink reactions. Get it. Get it. And I need Ann's instincts. Like I said, she was very proud of herself when she came up with these.
I, I, I was, was, so, I'm gonna say like a short phrase or a word, and then you have to respond with the first piece of advice that would come into your head, or like a reaction you get when I mentioned the word. So the first one is Peru Machu Picchu. Yes. And how about becoming a movie star at the age of 94?
Exciting. You can use many words now. You don't have to just use one. Oh, you can use more than one word. I can thank, thank you. Thank you. It was hard to get it down to one word. I know. Yeah. This is like reactions or like a piece of advice you would give someone about it too. So your reaction is exciting.
That's still applicable. Yeah. The next one is, um, what's your reaction or piece of advice you would give people on getting older? I would say just realize that it's never too late to learn and [00:32:00] grow. Mm mm-hmm. Age is only a number. Age is only a number and, and I find that learning is what like inspires me now.
It's like that's what really excites me and gets me like moving and like when I'm learning new stuff, like Kim will say, like I'll come down and be like, oh, I've just learned this great new thing and we get really passionate about it. And you get really motivated when you're inspired and you're motivated and then he's taking action and doing new things.
Yeah. And if you're open to learning, life is so much more exciting for you and so much more fun. So much more fun. I'm glad you said fun, not just exciting. So much more fun. Absolutely. All right. What reaction or piece of advice do you have when it comes to the top of kil Majaro? I would say. Never ever quit when you're going there.
But I would say also train before you go, go to some altitudes. Yeah. Mm-hmm. We, we went a few days early to do the safari, which was at a higher level than most of us live. Mm-hmm. So that helped some. And I did climb around in, uh, Coconino County where they have Humphreys in some of those mountains. And [00:33:00] I, one, the first time I climbed around Colorado for a lot of the peaks just to get myself a climb.
'cause I didn't want something like altitude sickness to stop me. Yeah. Yeah. Silly thing like altitude sickness, like, oh, which kills people. Yeah. But I wasn't gonna let it, I think it, it even affected one of the guides you were with, like on Mount Kil majaro, from what I saw. Maybe it wasn't your guide, but what in the movie somebody, one of them.
Um. He looked like he had a bit of altitude sickness looked, yeah. Like passing by you. Um, well, some of them were fairly new at the job, so maybe they weren't as a climber, but the others, they just a breeze for them. Yeah. And I, I still remember we were actually in Zion National Park and um, I had given you a call 'cause I knew you had gotten down from the bottom of Mount Kilimanjaro.
This is the second time that you had climbed it when you were 89. And I'm talking to you and I was like, well, how's the climb? And you were like, well, I'm so glad that I accomplished it, but like it, you know, there was some struggle there. And I got back and my doctor checked me out and I realized that I had like cracked three ribs, [00:34:00] three broken ribs, three broken ribs on the climb up.
And, and that didn't stop you. You still kept going. And I was just amazed. And I went to Kim and I was like, you won't believe what Anne just told me. I know. Like, that's crazy. I was like, what do you mean? But what I didn't realize after watching the movie too, was so to get the Guinness World record, like the actual.
Award. I, I don't know what it's called, the record you, it's an unassisted hike, meaning nobody can help you and you can't have oxygen on the way up. Is that how it works? Well, I felt that I shouldn't, I don't know what their actual rules are. Right. Because the dentist that it before me was using oxygen.
And I said, well, I don't think that's fair. And then the Russian woman, she had people on each arm taking her up the mountain and I thought, well that doesn't count, so I'm gonna do it totally alone. Yeah. And totally your way. Nobody helps me up. It was Anne's way though. I thought that was really incredible.
Like watching that in the movie. Like they literally show you. Yeah, just you know, sometimes we stumble over her feet. You take a little [00:35:00] fall and then everyone you know want to help you up. Yes. No, no. Everyone wants to. And Anne's like, I'm fine. I will get up on my own. Just give me a minute. I will get up.
And also, it gave you an excuse to take a small break so you can, so you can get up again. But anytime Anne would go down, she would get up on her own and then she'd get back. I mean she made, you made it all the way to the top and as you saw at the top, there were times when it was a struggle, but I wasn't going to stop.
Kevin said to me, you know, you don't have to do this. I said, I do. There are too many people counting on me and I'm not going to stop. Is was that your mindset? That was really like, 'cause I know that that part of the movie and that had me a little emotionally attached to when it's like, I can't do this.
And I've never heard you say those words ever. So I know you were going through some things too, but it's gotta be so hard feeling the shooting pain in your lungs every time you breathe. Like how, how did you get past? I can't, when you were so close to the top, if anybody tried to [00:36:00] take me off that mountain, out of a.
Beating them up. No, the thing was, it was very, very slippery and steep. Yeah. And so what I did do was start angling across it to get on up there. But at, at the moment, I felt like this can't be done. But it wasn't, nobody could have stopped me just to say, no matter what I said. Alright. So that was just a choice.
Words of what we saw in the film of I can't, it was like, I just need a different path, you guys. That's what it was. That's really what it, what it amounted to. Yeah. Because I didn't sound as if I were not gonna do it, but I well was nothing would've stopped me. You certainly sounded frustrated. I gathered that.
Yeah. There were times. And I was so close to the top then. And I was so exhausted. And I was slipping and slipping and Yeah. I did it. You did it. You kicked as well. You still did it. It and, uh, so amazing. The, again, here's the certificate. I'm holding it up right now. It is. Show it to the camera. It's not an award.
It's a certificate. Thank you. Certificate. And. On the bottom here officially. Amazing. With an official, Isaac, can you read it? What does it say For our listeners, the oldest [00:37:00] person to climb Mount Kilimanjaro is Ann Laura Moore, USA, uh, 11th of June. Uh, 1930 is when you were born. Uh, so that's your birthday.
Who reached peak of Mount Kliman Jo Tanzania. Age 89 years old. 37 days on the 18th of July 9, 20 19. I love that they gave your age. 89 years and 37 days. And 37 days. That is funny. Funny. They made it exact because if somebody came within a day or two of me, no, I That would be important. Yeah, that's, that's very cool.
And there's, there's an official approved sticker on the bottom and everything. This is Oh, so amazing. This is very, I'm so glad you brought this. 'cause I've seen this in like YouTube clips and whatnot, right? America's got talent and like shadow dude. Perfect. You know, break world records and that kind of stuff, but I've never seen one in person, so it's very cool.
How so was there somebody that climbed with you? Like how did they like to prove it officially? Like, award you this? I had on a watch that, uh, marked the spaces [00:38:00] in the movie. You remember sometimes I'll say word exactly this height, uh, and so forth. But there the guide was absolutely watching. And when he got there, he's the one that said, now you've officially done this.
Oh. 'cause there was a man earlier who was 87 and he claimed the title, but nobody'd give it to him 'cause nobody proved it. Oh yeah. So I made very sure that when I did this, I wanted to get the credit for it. So was some, was someone from the Guinness World Book of Records? No. No. It, but it was the guide.
Okay. And also you had your own, um, machine that the watch that showed what I was doing. Gotcha. Pictures of, I mean, and kept a record and all that sort of thing. Yeah. I really wanted the credit for it after I did it. Oh my gosh. Absolutely. Nothing would feel worse than not getting the credit after doing that whole thing.
Well, it felt pretty bad when I was the oldest woman and we were going through Guinness and then this Russian woman comes in, she's just a few years older me, years older than I was, and also she was being helped all the way, so I thought, I gotta do this over again. So she was [00:39:00] the one who beat your records then?
Yes. In about to four months she went, she said she'd promised her sister. But I, I'm telling you, she was, had people on each arm just practically carrying her up the mountain was how it looked to me. So I said, I'm not gonna do it that way. No, but I mean, it's still good for her for doing it. She did, of course she was.
And then Anne took it another level completely and I was like, I'm gonna do it. Nobody's gonna touch me. I'm not gonna use oxygen. I do it. It was funny watching the movie and like when you, because you, it shows you falling a couple times and literally you could like. Feel everyone around you like catch the breath and like, like start to reach out.
Yeah. For, yeah. Yeah. I mean, I would too. I tell him I got this. Yeah. Yeah. It's like, we'll, we'll be fine. Zena's like, great. We'll film while you're sitting down. That's great. All right. We got stuck at Mount Kilimanjaro, which I'm grateful for, but we do have four other reactions or a piece of the advice I need from you.
You okay. For your, in your instinct reactions. Ready? How do you feel about Kim and Isaac? [00:40:00] Well, I admire Kim and Isaac because they took off from work they had and just went and traveled. And a lot of people wanna do that, and very few do. I've known the one woman I told you from Toastmasters that took her a year off and did it.
Most people are afraid to, and so I think it's wonderful doing something you love so much that it'll be so broadening for you. Oh yes. And we actually did it a bit differently. It's not that we took off from work, but we created a lifestyle and a business that allowed us to travel and work simultaneously.
Yeah. Because we've seen a lot of people like to sell everything they own and they to go traveling and they travel for a year and then the broke, or they gotta go back and get a job then. So you made it so that you took it with you? Well, I, I'm sorry if I misunderstood that. Oh no. At all. But I still admire it very much.
I tried to get somebody to let me be a travel writer when I started my traveling Uhhuh, but all they said, oh, that, that is a reward for people that have been a newspaper in years and years. Oh, I gave it up that one. Yeah. I just went on travel anyway though. Yeah. Well, and then you moved to nursing, right?
A traveling nurse or No? [00:41:00] Um, when I. Was starting to go to, I was accepted by the University of Cincinnati 'cause I'd been living there, going to a small college which wasn't accredited. And I said, I'm not doing this. And they accepted me and I'd been there for a year and supporting myself. And then they said, no, you, you're a resident where your parents are, which is in Arizona, so we aren't going to give you non-resident tuition.
Well, I couldn't do it. Yeah. Resident. I could have. So I was working as a nanny for, um, doctor there and he said, you know, I think you'd be a good nurse. And so he introduced me to his hospital. It was Jewish hospital and they had a school of nursing. I thought, well I can do this and use it as a fallback position.
Nurses can always find work. Mm-hmm. So I went there and I got a full ride scholarship and, and so that helped me a whole lot and I've fallen back on it a few times in my career. And that those are great skills to have regardless. Yes, exactly. I mean, always needed. It's essential. And they're great skills to have in your household for.
When one of your many friends [00:42:00] or family or something needs a health, they're like, and what do I do? And I think you can keep yourself healthier if you know a little bit about it. Pe some people in medicine or nursing don't pay attention. But I always paid attention to nutrition and exercise and yeah, the stress part, I didn't get down as well as I should have, but at least I knew that it was something you wanted to go along with.
Well, and that says something to, to the point of like, how you are in your health now at the age of 94 is just. Breathtaking. I mean, and inspiring and should, I hope even by being on our podcast, inspire so many other people, you know, listening and us sharing your message of your experience through life and just how amazing it is.
And I wanna repeat again, it's never too late to learn and grow. Yeah, absolutely. And I love your taglines. Like you come up with such amazing taglines that are just so fun. We should have had a tagline off like, how many taglines can we name, uh, from Anne without Anne saying anything. That's a good, uh, never too late.
We know. Yeah. It's um, [00:43:00] uh, I'm not done yet. Yeah. I'm not done yet. Oh, I'm beating you. And I like the one where I say I am nine, four years young and I'm just getting started. You just getting started yourself and then the one never, ever quit. Never, ever quit. That is a persistence is one of my qualities.
Yeah. And I think it's one of the things that helps you. Power through it even when you don't think you're getting anywhere. Yeah, absolutely. Alright, so I do want to jump in Yeah. To the non-for-profit stuff and talk a little bit about that. Um, yes. You know, because you know what, you know, what we've seen is like this, this non-for-profit you created creating exciting futures.
We mentioned it, you know what, you know, I think what you're doing in providing like this option and education to, to youth about like, hey, there are more than just this one option in front of you. Um, you know, and you've dedicated so much of your life to that, to helping the underprivileged youth through your non-for-profit, you know, how has adventure shaped that [00:44:00] philosophy of like, wanting to give back?
Hmm. Well, I, I'm, I'm not sure that. I could say that adventure did it, but my curiosity always helped me. Yeah. When I was just nine years old and my parents had a children's home and I went and helped with the babies, I really did help with the babies. Mm-hmm. When I, you know, I'd feed them and bathe them and change 'em and take them, give 'em sun baths and all the things they did.
And, and I, I really felt that we were doing some good there. 'cause all of these kids, most of them were kids that were born out of wedlock and it was terribly, uh, not proper in those days. Mm-hmm. And yet I saw, saw one of 'em, he was adopted and I saw him in, in Wisconsin a few years ago. Oh, he, you weren't supposed to have favorites, but he always was kind of my favorite.
So I was so glad to see him that he'd grown up and had a good job and had a wife that he loved and life had been good for him. Yeah. So you wanna see that for kids. And a lot of orphans had miserable lives from [00:45:00] what I've seen in real life and also in movies and books. Yeah. That they would go and people would abuse them terribly.
And I don't wanna see that for them. So I wanna help them. Yeah. And then I also say this, every child deserves food, clothing, shelter, and safety. They have to have that. And that's not what I'm about. I'm trying to go beyond that. Help them get the skills and the options and the knowledge and the education.
Yeah. So they do the things that they love. Yeah. And I, I just think that's so important because a lot of people don't, as we all know. Yeah. Yeah. And I would say your curiosity, that's the answer, right? Like curiosity is what has led you through traveling and adventure, your curious to explore as well as curious on like.
How can I do better in the world to help impact these underprivileged youth and actually give them the tools and resources to live an impactful life that they can feel great about? Yeah. Yeah. They, they usually tell you to ch, I mean, they tell you to choose three qualities about yourself. And I can never, never stop there.
[00:46:00] I say I'm adventuresome, I'm caring, I'm curious, and I'm persistent. And I think all of those things, you know, influence what I do with kids. Yeah. I'm sure it goes beyond a list of four, right? Oh, a lot of others. But those are the four major ones that I would mention. Four. Four, yeah. Yeah. And so, you know, as someone who in my future, I want create a non-for-profit, um, you know, Kim and I are very involved in the sustainable movement here in Phoenix and have done a lot of work in, in supporting both sustainability and, uh, you know, we're in the process of actually getting our company to be green business certified here in Arizona.
So we'll have that certificate by the end of this month, which we're excited about. So I'm just curious how is, like, what was that moment you decided that I am gonna create a non-for-profit and, and how do you go about creating one? I don't know that it was an exact moment. I was in a business organization and I just, there was somebody in there that said, I can set this up for you.
And so I, I had gone to [00:47:00] Arizona Community Foundation where I have a little fund where I tell them what to do with the money every year, a little bit of it. But this gave me the chance to do what I really wanted to do was, which was get the kids to do the kinds of things I want. The boot camp and, and the, um, other things that, that I think are important, like as I told you about the youth, um, Toastmasters and the financial literacy and just the other things.
And also to learn. Uh, little things like it really is better to approach people in a friendly way than to go out stridently and say, you've gotta give me my rights. You can do a lot better if you do it another way. Yeah. So I would like to get them into all of those kinds of things, and I love to see them get a chance and.
I had several real success stories with the kids that I helped, and it made me feel so good to know that life was better for them. And then in turn, their ripples are going to be out. Yeah. They're gonna make other people feel better. And just amazing how far [00:48:00] I could ripple out. Yeah. Child help. They, those two women started with orphans, Sarah o' Mera and Yvonne Edison, and they've now for 50 years, helped 12 and a half million kids.
Wow. Wow. Well, I can never match that, but I can maybe help one or two at a time who can then help others. And help others. And help others. So it ripples out. It makes the world a better place. Oh yeah, absolutely. I know, um, both, both Kim and I have studied Terry Cruz. He's an inspirational figure to us. Yeah.
And he says. All a child needs is one person to believe in them to change their life. Yeah. And that was for him, one of his teachers. And I know you talked about it, I believe in the movie as well, or maybe at the q and a afterwards, you had a couple teachers, it sounds like, really believe in you and that really made a huge impact in your life.
It, I, I don't think I could have done what I did if they hadn't been there encouraging me. And I told you one of them actually paid my in bed boarding school when I got to high school. And that was just a tremendous help. And the other one just [00:49:00] believed in me. And I, I, one time I read that if, when I was in high school it said, well, you have to be very intelligent to go to college.
So I looked at her and I said, well, I guess that washes me out. And she said, oh no, you're going to do just fine. And I, I always was more intelligent than I thought I was. It was the same part of the general lack of self-esteem that I just felt I was pretty dumb. Yeah. And didn't catch on. But actually I wasn't.
And I think there's a variety of different types of intelligent, you know, again, we've, we look now at like how intelligent you are at taking task. And that's kind of how people measure intelligence here in America. Mm-hmm. In school. Yeah. And yet there are people who may not be a great intelligent in terms of like going to school, and yet they're master mechanics or master craftmen or like, I mean, Isaac, you are an example of that.
Isaac, I believe you got a couple of detentions maybe in your lifetime. I mean, and also maybe I was more of a troublemaker. Yeah. But this is the thing, like when you have, even my own nephew, he's 18 and he's brilliant. Isaac is [00:50:00] brilliant. Mm-hmm. And school can be boring. No. To people who are brilliant in different ways.
You know, I can't imagine Albert Einstein had a great time through school. Like I don't even think he's famous. I think he famously flunked out of like eighth grade math. This is what I mean. And brilliant life changing. It wouldn't surprise me. And even Edison, I think they had to take him outta school to get him home to training because they couldn't get Yeah.
And afford, I mean, the list goes on of all the incredible people who have made such massive impacts. But like school wasn't for them. No, not to say school is, is bad in any way. Education is great. It's just when teachers like you, Anne, you're a teacher, like you teach and educate these different people and and children, what their options are and there's different pathways to achieve greatness.
I really like to do that. I had a little, uh. A cousin who was extremely, extremely bright, and so school was boring to him. And one year he had a teacher that gave him all kinds of side things to do. I remember one time was he exploring the [00:51:00] Pharaohs of Egypt? And so he, he stayed in excited about school and, and broadened himself.
Some other teachers say, now you gotta do it this way, this way, or no way. I never fit into that either. I usually was almost a teacher's pet. Yeah. When I met Kim again, she really just thought there was one solution to every problem. That's it. Yeah. This is the only way. It's the only way. So she'd be like doing something, getting really frustrated and I was like, have you tried approaching it from this angle?
Like literally my brain, brain could not even change to think, I mean he, he opened my eyes to what you guys are talking about. I've always been a rule follower. Mm-hmm. Teacher's pet, of course, Uhhuh straight, A student got, but like I said, got, I was always that person though. But it was, wasn't really until I met Isaac, I've always had this curiosity and this affinity for nature and being outdoors.
Yeah. But I only knew as much as I knew until I realized there's other ways to. Think about things or just be open. Like you said, if you're open-minded, life is a lot [00:52:00] more fun. When you were always open-minded, Kim. It's just, and, and, and that's why I was like, okay, I can, I can teach you. You did, you did teach me, but you just hadn't comprehended that there could be multiple solutions.
Oh my gosh. And we were at a national park one time and the, the visitor center was about to close and you know, they do the announcement that's like, we're about to close in 10 minutes, if everyone could please head towards the exit. And I booked it. I was like, oh, we have to get outta here. And I tried to like run out because she announced we have to leave and Isaac like grabbed my arm and he is like.
We have 10 minutes, like slow down. Like you don't have to follow the rules right this second, like they will tell you again, you need to leave. And also, like, they're not gonna put us in jail. They're just gonna be like, will you please kindly leave? Like we were in the middle of reading a sign. We weren't even done in the visitor center, but my little rule brain was like, get out kid.
And she, oh my God. She turned on a dime and started like marching outta there. And, and I, I don't do that. I spend the time to the lu hustle minute. I took one of my nieces on a trip to [00:53:00] Italy as a graduation president, and she said. And you're always pushing the envelope. And I, I do, I try to put as much into everything as I can and not just move to other people's rules.
And I had a little mentee one time and we were going over to a party at my family's house and I said to her, now Erin, I'm gonna do this and this and this and this. On the way she looked at me and she said, how Ann, you're never going to make it. So that's pretty typical of me trying to squeeze in as much and learn as much as I can.
Yeah. But I did cut out a few times there and got there on time. So funny. Make the most of it. That makes sense. You do make the most of life. It's, it's, it's out there and it's fun. And you know, we were talking about your non-profit as well. I'd like to go back to that also. Um. You're creating exciting futures.
It's, it's all about opening doors for underprivileged youth. But for someone listening who's maybe in that position currently [00:54:00] or knows someone who is, it might feel a little overwhelming or like a big dream, uh, without like a clear first step on how to take that. Can you kind of walk us through, uh, what that process with your nonprofit actually looks like?
Like let's say a young person wants to achieve something big, um, but they don't know how, like how would they get involved in your program or what support might they receive along the way? And if you could share, uh, a couple real life examples of students who have seen great success, that'd be great.
Most, uh, most of the students I got came from other people who were doing the, the four things I said, you know, and I, I sent out word that we offered this kind of, the, particularly the one I was proud of was the entrepreneurial program. 'cause there aren't so many, a lot of these kids don't know.
Networking, brainstorming, and all those things. Yeah. And they, so I made them say why they wanted to go and then they had, they had to be passed by the board and we, we took them then and, and after [00:55:00] that they made all kinds of connections and some of them kept up with their networking connections. And I've decided that if.
As I continue with this program, I want to have a mentorship program so that every one of the kids has a mentor. 'cause they'd come home so high and then I couldn't handle 'em all. And I'd try, but then they'd sort of sink. Yeah. So I want somebody to have mentors that help them every single week to keep their spirits up and look at, think of, think of things in new ways and all those sorts of things.
And I believe it's possible. And I, I know somebody that does a, a program where they have mentors and I wanna get the ones that help them, particularly career wise. 'cause I think that's where they need it. Mm-hmm. And so I, when I got from, um, alliances, a couple people that said they'd help, one of the girls that said she wanted to go into, uh, real estate, she went there and she said, I had about 10 things I wanted to do.
And I came out and decided I wanna be in real estate. So I thought, that's good. If you narrow it down, it does help you to go toward it more precisely and quickly. And so that was [00:56:00] a good thing about her. I hope to have lectures where the kids can come up and ask for help. And I myself, when I get thumb, or the people that when I build these infrastructure and they help, I know people, for example, that can get them tremendous scholarships.
One of them got two kids Stanford for a $50,000 scholarship. Wow. For a year. And then it could be continued. And so you gotta have people that are specialists in the various things. I can't certainly do it all, but if I can guide them to some of the people that will help them. Yeah, that would be good. And anyone that comes to me, I like to think that I can at least refer them where they'll find things that are exciting and I.
I lost one of my best, best promoters. She had, uh, millet House in Mesa. Yeah. And she sent me, I think about three or four of the different kids that I've given scholarships to. She's going away, but I will somehow find someone else to help. And the kids themselves who have been scholars can sometimes think of Sunday, seven months.
Oh, [00:57:00] one thing I didn't mention. Mm-hmm. I've, I've sent a couple of scholars to the film school bootcamp. Oh. And so they get there and those kids work together and they do all of the aspects of it. 'cause maybe you think you wanna be an actor. Well, maybe there are a lot of other things that go to making up a film and they start learning that, you know, the costumers and the prop people, and the directors and the editors and all of these.
Exactly. And these kids make a film which they then get to show. Oh, that's cool. And I think that's so exciting because that's very cool. You can see something practical, but you can use it for your portfolio then if you really decide you wanna stay. And if you simply learn it, you really don't wanna be in the film on street.
That's useful. 'cause then you go to some other direction and now you know what you don't like. Exactly. And I think that's really important. It's kind of crazy that you don't get to try careers in our culture until you're 22, until you've graduated from college. You don't really get to go in and try your different types of careers.
Right. And I just think that's crazy. I think, you know, in. Even in middle school or or younger, you should be able to go into different careers and kind of [00:58:00] try them out for a day and just kind of see like, is this something that I'm passionate about? I like that we, we do have career days where people can take their kid to work for a day, and that's not what you're saying, but it gives you a step in that direction.
So I think it doesn't like, wow, what my dad does, this boring, like at least I would know. And that you go in and somebody else says, we, that's exciting that you put people together and you, uh, give them the things they need to do, do their career so successfully or Yeah, you're a good salesman. You get people what they want and the attitude.
If you get somebody that. He cares about the other person. You wanna a win-win situation? Yes. Not just somebody that says, here, I want you to do this. 'cause it'll, it'll, right. I'm dragging you along because you have to be here and, and it'll give me, um, a boost in my career. No. Let it be win-win. Yes. So, so I really like to see that.
Yeah. So how does somebody reach out to you? Like, what are the steps that someone should take if they want to get involved in your program? I do have this, uh, website called creating exciting [00:59:00] futures.org and it tells how to reach us and it tells some testimonials of people that have seen my work and the, the kids that have had the scholarships.
And there're just a lot of things in there that you can learn and get, get aspects of it that you never thought of maybe that we can help you with. And we want you to reach out and I'm going to spread my infrastructure. I've gotta have somebody to answer some of these things 'cause I can't do it all.
But I did have somebody offer to me just today saying that she could do the newsletter and she could. Answer the, uh, calls that come in and the, the emails that come in and then the ones that she needs to, she sends to me. The ones that she can tell she'll handle. So be, it's all about having systems we know.
Yeah. Yeah. Infrastructures are so horribly important. 'cause you cannot do it all, as they say, it takes a village. No. And you're able to make a much bigger impact beyond yourself when you're able to delegate to other people who are passionate about your cause. And I do remember, I do just wanna note one more thing.
I think it was in your movie, there was a [01:00:00] testimonial from a girl who did get a scholarship. And one thing I thought was really special that she said in the movie was that I didn't even think I would get this scholarship. I just applied just whatever, like to see what would happen. So even if you are listening right now and.
You just don't know what you don't know, but what you do know, and what Anne is gonna tell you is to just take action, just apply the worst case scenario. Isaac has taught me this lesson, actually. What is the worst thing that could possibly happen? No, I will not get arrested at that national park. That is not the worst, but they'll gently tell me to leave, in which case, the same goes for creating exciting futures.
The worst case scenario is that you don't get the scholarship, but you wouldn't know unless you tried. And we certainly would try to point you in another direction or have you try again another year. You, you've gotta show some eagerness that that girl that you saw in the film, Uhhuh, she took three buses to get to our first meeting and that impressed me.
Oh wow. And she just, [01:01:00] everything was, she was all in. Yeah. Yeah. She took initiative and that's the persistence you're talking about. And Yeah, there was, there was that and, and she said the initiative as well. Yeah. And when she got to speak at the end of the entrepreneurial bootcamp, she was. Just out there again.
And she wanted to do everything. She wanted to sing, she wanted to talk. And she was a tremendous writer. And I kept encouraging her and saying, write every day. Don't let anything stop you. But, so anyway, she was wonderful. Yeah. And I had a boy that he said to his advisor, he was, that was Boys and Girls Club, I think, and he said, oh, I won't win.
My family never wins. And then later on he became the very first person in his whole family to ever graduate high school. Aw. I was so proud of him. Oh, let's feel good for him. And for you, I mean, you just essentially changed the luck of an entire family just because you believed in someone. You know, it's just kind of crazy.
Makes me gooses and, and they came to see 'em graduate. They were [01:02:00] so proud when, when they first told me, he said, we graduated high school or so, so, and. No, the first in his whole family have ever graduated. That's amazing. And he wants to be a chef. And so I've introduced him to a man that has his own restaurant 'cause he wants his own restaurant.
And so, yeah. And he's out there working in the food industry now, getting some background. I was gonna try to get him a scholarship to still Culinary Institute. Oh yeah. But they've closed, but they'll, they'll, it'll come. Yeah. Yes. He'll find something so that he can do Oh yeah. He's, he's destined for greatness, it sounds like.
So, I think so. And he believes, so when he was at, um, the bootcamp, he brainstormed a fusion restaurant with two other guys, and then somebody there told him about the grants that are available for people that provide essential services in under, you know, low income areas. Great. You know, I don't know everything, but I try to get them in contact with the people that do know even more than I do.
And Isaac and I both know you are incredibly well connected, Anne, not just. In Arizona, [01:03:00] you know, where the roots are, but in a lot of places, I would say, and definitely around Mount Kilimanjaro now, I would imagine. Well, and you get about to get more connected now that you're a movie star, so I know, I know.
Well, we, we, the, um, town manager, uh, that came just after I'd done the climb. She, she met me because she'd made the climb and she said that the guides all over Kilimanjaro were talking about me, and that some of 'em said they didn't think anybody else was going to beat that record. Yeah. Oh my gosh. Yeah.
Amazing. Like, I, I really, how long do you think you'll hold this record for? Like, realistically, do you think somebody's gonna try and beat it now? They're gonna have to be pretty strong and pretty, pretty amazing if they do. Because you saw what a trouble I had doing it. Yeah. And I'm strong and I'm healthy.
Yeah. Yeah. Both in mind and body, let me say Yes. Thank you, my dear. But I, I think it could be a while, but I'm, I'll still keep in mind if, if somebody does, I'll take that guy up on it and see if I can still do it. Hundred. Yeah. She's going back, she's going back at it at 98. Is is my next prediction. You're gonna go back [01:04:00] at it again?
If somebody's beats me, I may. Well try that. All right. Isaac, you have another question? Yeah. I mean, so, you know, we've been talking obviously a bit about travel, a bit about your life, everything, you know, in terms of e everywhere you've traveled in the world. Do you have a place that really sta stands out as like kind of making a, the biggest impact in your life?
Hmm. Can I just say the one that I'd most wanna live in that I love? Sure. Yeah. I love Spain. Okay. I really, really loved Spain. Yeah. I, I liked the food and I liked the, would you believe it? I liked the, the bowls. Okay. I, I'd always felt so sorry and didn't like it, but when I got to see, there's a lot of skill involved there.
Mm. And I also found out that if a bull is a coward and he doesn't wanna fight, wait, wait. Are we talking? He can walk away a like, like an animal in the, the corita's over there. I was thinking of like making a pottery bowl this whole time. I'm talking about the real [01:05:00] live ones. 'cause you know, it is an art form.
They do not put bull fighting in sports. They put it on the entertainment pages. Yes. Yeah. And the papers over there, and. I, I, at first I was, thought it was pretty dreadful, but then I started seeing it. It really is an art form. Oh. And they, and I'm trying to say to you, it's not as cruel as people think, because if the bull is coward and doesn't wanna fight and he walks away, they don't do anything, they let him go.
Oh, that's good to know, know. And furthermore, when they're killed, they don't just throw it away. That meat goes to charity. Well, places are sold in the market. And I just love to watch all of the beautiful waving of the, the capes and all these things. Yeah. Yeah. So I got, so I really, really loved that art form.
Oh, interesting. Yeah. And, and it, so it was amazing. 'cause you wouldn't have thought I would, but I did. And then of course I had a ticket to the opera over there. They had a beautiful opera house and they said it was the only, the most democratic opera house in Europe. 'cause they didn't have a royal box that's.
And I, I, I had a wonderful time in [01:06:00] Spain and I'd love to go back and go there every year for vacation if I can. And we actually haven't been in Spain yet. No, at all. We've been told by many people, we need to, you know, I've been to many, many European countries, but Spain is definitely very high on our list.
Fair. Yeah. They used to have wonderful dancers out in the cathedral grounds every, every few days, you know? And I watched it and yeah, it, it just lovely things. And there's Picasso paintings on the buildings and the, the square and very intricate Right. Like the architecture and the detail. Right. It, it was, it was lovely.
And, and just, uh, being there was, to me an experience, an expanding experience. And I, I really, really loved it. No, I can definitely see you light up talking about it. So, and it was funny, when we were in France, we didn't see the French dance a ton, but when we did see 'em dance, they were always dancing to Spanish music.
Yes. Which was always very funny. So what it was like, it would just be a clear, you know. Pathway down there, we're looking over our balcony and then we [01:07:00] hear like Latin music in the background, and so we look over our balcony and all the French people are dancing. Everyone's like, even the children, like the children, the adults, the men, the women, they're all getting together and like what Salsa dancing.
Yeah. I was like, I've never seen French people dance really in my life, but when you turn that Latin music on, that's, they just, it moves everybody. It, it sort of speaks to. Body, doesn't it? Yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah. You feel like you wanna move to it? Yeah. You can't hold still. And then the tango is, is a beautiful, beautiful dance that I love.
And yeah, I learned salsa back in college. I really enjoy, uh, that dance form. And we'll probably have to take some salsa lessons. I'm a terrible dancer. I just don't understand how to not step on people there. There's a little Mediterranean restaurant down on, uh, Scottsdale. Uh, and, and they, they probably still have salsa dancing on Friday night.
You mentioned that. I did know. So look it up and see. Yes, because it's fun to go to. I think Le leads really well into the next question. Do you, the last question, do you wanna lay it on [01:08:00] us? Kim, question? Yes. Anne, you have already done so much in life in general, you've set the bar pretty high, but I know one of your catchphrases is.
Not done yet. So what's next on your adventure list? On my adventure list? Oh, I am absolutely going up in the balloon and it, maybe they'll take me up on my 95th birthday. We're talking about it. Uh, I had it all planned with a girlfriend and I knew she had a fear of height, but she said she'd do it and I, I got her this card, which showed her surrounded by Dobermans and that said, you know, light Live Life dangerously, but then I never gave her that card because she just said, I can't do it.
I can't do it. So I never have got to do it. And Oh wow. I've already done now the, the, the jump from the airplane. Yes. So now we saw that the next thing will be the, the hot air balloon. Are you going the full experience with like the meal and the champagne glasses and everything? If they, if they bring that on for my birthday, I will.
I know. If they don't, I'm just gonna be glad to [01:09:00] get up there. Yes. Yeah. Isaac and I actually have not been. Untethered, I'll say in a hot air balloon either, but we did just, uh, buy Yeah. Hot air balloon tickets. Yeah, we did very, very good. Yeah. So we just have to book it. We just have to book. It'll, it'll be really exciting.
Yeah. They, they had a exhibit over there that they do it once a year. I think it's in Bullhead City and I, they were gonna get free rides. Oh wow. Wow. I was over there on a job and I, I'll do it, but then the wind got so bad we didn't get to go up. Yeah. And then it didn't work with my girlfriend, so that's still one of my things to come.
Yeah. But, uh, that's exciting though. Do you know where you'll be headed over? It'll probably be over on the west side of town. That's where the have the great balloon shows over there. Yeah. Oh, that's true. And I always see hot air balloons over there too. Yeah. Yeah. Because, um, it's, it's a lot more. Deserted over there.
And I'm curious, I wonder if the wind maybe isn't as choppy on the west side of the Phoenix Valley. I don't, there's something over there that attracts the hotter balloons. Just, I know they do have it. They have there [01:10:00] every year. They have the great exciting, uh, exhibit of it and I just will do it someday.
That is really, I saw more of it when I, when I first came to town and I lived on the west side with my brother. Yeah. And so I got to see them and it was exciting. Yeah. Yeah. Well, and it's funny 'cause we, we haven't been on an untethered, um, hot air balloon put. We've actually launched hot air balloons, plural.
Like Kim and I like worked. It's a lot. We went to the, uh, H Air Balloon Fest in Lake Havasu. We were asked to help out, you know, our neighbor asked to about and like. It is hard work. These balloons are so, so heavy. Heavy. Yeah. And like you have to control My arms were like cello the next day. Yeah. Like we were so sore the next day, gosh.
Working on launching these hot air balloons. I just, I didn't know. I mean, I know there's flames involved, right. But like, they, they take it out, they lay the balloon flat. Um, the basket is on its side then, 'cause it's, they attach it and everything. They literally have like. It's a giant standup, not a box fan.
It's just a fan at first. Mm-hmm. Yeah. So the fan is what fills the inside of, that's it. Okay. Like, and then eventually [01:11:00] once it's full of air from the fan, then they bring out the flames and it's on its side, so then the flame is filling it up even more. Isaac, do you remember what balloon we blew up? Ah, because they were, it's ridiculous.
Yeah, they were funny balloons. They were funny. So one of them was there like an armadillo with a cowboy hat? Yes. It was an armadillo with a cowboy hat and holsters for like guns. It was like a cowboy. Armadillo. Yeah. And the other one was in the shape of a spaceship with an alien as like the driver. So strange.
Yeah. I, I very much assume you'll be in a normal hot air balloon shape. That's what I think we're doing. And that's okay because they'll still be up there and get to float around and see the world under me and, uh, feel that feeling. Wait, and that's, I, I loved it when I jumped out of the plane. I just felt like I said Jennifer Livingston sequel.
Oh, I just read that book. You described that perfectly too. If you have not read Jonathan Livingston sequel, it's a very odd book, [01:12:00] but it's a very. Freedom driven sea. Exactly, exactly. Yeah. Who, who knows how to live life and inspire others. Yes. That's Anne just embracing her inner sea goal on the hot air balloon skydiving.
That's awesome. That's great. Well, Anne, thank you so much for being on. You're an inspiration to Kim and I. You know, we're so glad that we got to meet you, really at the beginning of our entrepreneurial journey together. Oh yeah. And you've been obviously a big supporter of us. We're obviously huge supporters of you.
Congratulations to all your success. I mean, congratulations to this incredible movie. You know, when you, you invited us and I, I didn't, I'd never been to a film festival. I didn't really know what you didn't even know expect to what the movie existed. Yeah. I just didn't, I didn't know what the quality level is.
This is a, this is a legit. Feature film. Like this is, this is real. This is a film that even movie poster, like Yeah. Like feels like a real, like a real movie. This is, so we've been telling people about it and they're like, I can't wait when it goes onto streaming so we can watch it. 'cause like, this is an awesome movie.
So, um, super congratulations that we do have a sign off, but I'd like to change our sign off a little bit to, [01:13:00] we're just getting started. Oh. Like instead of, oh wait, say full time. The travel time stuff. Yeah. So, so what, we'll, and you, we'd love for you to join, so we'll say, you know, this has been, you, you've been listening to full time, the travel time and we're just getting started, so, okay.
You ready? 1, 2, 3. Thank you for listening to Full Started Fulltime Travel. Time. Time, and we are just getting started. Started getting started. Awesome. That's a mouthful. But we did [01:14:00] [01:15:00] [01:16:00] [01:17:00] [01:18:00] [01:19:00] it.
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