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About Travel Podcast #7

Ever wondered how four friends manage to travel the world together every single year—without losing their minds (or their friendships)? In this episode, we spill all the secrets on how we’ve been able to create (and stick to) an awesome travel pact with our friends every year and how the HECK our friends are able to travel for years, with no home base, and live out of 1 suitcase each!

𝗠𝗲𝗲𝘁 𝗪𝗼𝗿𝗹𝗱 𝗧𝗿𝗮𝘃𝗲𝗹𝗲𝗿𝘀 & 𝗢𝘂𝗿 𝗔𝗺𝗮𝘇𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗙𝗿𝗶𝗲𝗻𝗱𝘀: 𝗖𝗼𝗿𝘆 & 𝗝𝗲𝘀𝘀𝗶𝗲!These two have been adventuring together since 2017—and their travel stats are seriously impressive:✈️ They’ve explored 20+ European countries & in 8 years of traveling, they’ve only ever missed ONE flight. (impressive right!?)

EPISODE HIGHLIGHTS:
✅ The #1 relationship tip for couples who travel
✅ The secret to loving each other (and not just tolerating) while traveling😉
✅ Why “fair” relationships aren’t actually the best relationships (aka if I (KIM) am navigating, we will get lost and end up in a fight 😂)
✅ Money-saving travel hack
✅ Lesser-known European gems: like Georgia (yes, the country!) and its epic food—helloooo…jk, I’m not gonna tell you here! Lol🍕
✅ Find out what’s in the vending machines in Switzerland!🤔
✅ Jessie’s most romantic scenic drive (Hint: it’s surprisingly in the US!)
✅ What the heck is a DINK? (Jessie & Cory got called this and we’re still laughing lol)

Get ready for some laughs, juicy travel hacks, and stories that will have you planning your next adventure with friends.

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Go Anywhere, Do Anything”:
Cory & Jessie on Full Time to Travel Time (Episode Recap)

Meet Cory & Jessie

Isaac opens with a full-circle origin story: Cory was his LinkedIn mentor long before this podcast existed. Jessie, once a Starbucks barista, jumped into entrepreneurship and now runs a successful design studio while partnering on Cory’s projects. Both have traveled full-time since December 2017, with their first test run in Colombia and Argentina—two months in close quarters to “see if we’d survive.” They did… and never looked back.

“Our relationship grows deeper all the time because we keep doing personal development—together.” — Cory

Episode Takeaways

  • Travel Europe as a couple by assigning roles and trusting each other.

  • Do personal development together to keep the bond strong.

  • Stay a month when you can; it changes how you see a country.

  • Georgia is a sleeper hit: khachapuri, khinkali, churchkhela, kind people.

  • Flexibility turns setbacks into signature memories (lavender fields!).

  • You can start with short trips and a remote job—no business required.

The Relationship Operating System (For Travel)

One big takeaway: clarity beats “fairness.” Roles let each person lean into strengths.

Their split:

  • Jessie: all logistics (trains, planes, automobiles), provisioning, coffee recon.

  • Cory: researching and booking places, on-the-ground setup.

Why it works

  • Trust your partner’s lane.

  • Calibrate over time; roles can evolve.

  • Keep doing personal development together.

“How can you meet or exceed expectations if you don’t know what you’re responsible for?” — Kim

Quick tips for couples

  • Pick roles before you leave; iterate after a trip or two.

  • Drop the “everything must be equal” mindset—optimize for strengths.

  • Build in solo rituals (Jessie’s long provision walks = zen + fitness).

  • Flexibility > perfection. Trips go smoother when you’re adaptable.

The Travel Pact

The two couples keep a standing pact: live together for ~1 month each year, wherever in the world they are. It keeps friendship rich and cures the nomad “friend-gap.”

“Travel can get lonely—so we decided it wouldn’t.” — Cory

They’ve shared months in Oregon, Phoenix, France, wine country around San Diego, and more.

Europe, Deep & Wide

  • Countries visited by Cory & Jessie: 21 (and counting).

  • Usual first-timers do the “big three”: France, UK, Italy—then maybe Spain, Germany, Switzerland.

  • Their style: ~30 days per country when possible, sometimes one city (e.g., Istanbul for a full month), sometimes several regions.

The Hidden Gem: Georgia

Both rave about Georgia (the country!):

  • Food: khachapuri (the “adult cheese pizza”), khinkali (soup-filled dumplings—poke, sip, then bite), and churchkhela (hazelnuts dipped in grape must).

  • Vibe: walkable cities, futuristic + art-deco mash-ups, wildly hospitable people.

  • Only-in-Georgia moments: stumbling upon Fast & Furious filming outside their flat; a 12-dog “bodyguard” entourage on a walk.

Most Memorable Purchases

  • Cory (Switzerland): fresh milk + chocolate powder from a roadside kiosk after hiking the Alps—and cheese from a vending machine.

  • Jessie: a long-running tradition of collecting Christmas ornaments—one from each country.

“It’s not always a thing; sometimes it’s a memory you can taste.” — Isaac

Rapid-Fire Highlights

Most memorable Airbnb (with the hosts)

  • Marseille, France: the famed three-tier flat with Bruno (keeper of the good pastis in the secret drawer).

  • Montélimar, France: a historic house where even Napoleon allegedly stayed—rakíja night on the terrace included.

Best shared activity

  • Private sailing off Marseille with Captain Coco and skipper Fanny—swimming coves, salty buoyancy of the Med, snorkeling, and yes… one quick business call from a sailboat.

A classic French language test

  • How to say it? “Croissant.” (Good luck matching a local’s whisper-through-the-nose perfection.)

Beach-club discovery

  • A luxe afternoon in Nice (after a curiosity-driven peek inside the opulent Le Negresco). Champagne, lobster rolls, and long conversation on a rocky Riviera beach.

What’s Next?

  • Kim: Greece (and nearby Croatia) for sea, stone, and ancestry.

  • Isaac: Spain, especially Barcelona—Camp Nou dreams and Gaudí’s otherworldly Sagrada Família.

“Build your travel muscles locally: weekenders → 5-day trips → week-long months.” — Isaac

Most Romantic Trips

  • Cory: Belize—a Groupon-born first international together, jungle truck rides to the Crystal Cave, and beachside drinks.

  • Jessie: Oregon Coast drive (Brookings → Seattle)—tide pools, Harris Beach State Park starfish, and a rare sunset beaming through a natural keyhole arch.

Flexibility, Packing & Tiny Upgrades

The crew’s mantra: be flexible—then bring one or two familiar comforts.

Their small-but-mighty “comfort kit”:

  • A non-toxic ceramic “green pan” (when Airbnb cookware is… questionable).

  • Espresso maker (US outlets only), because rituals matter.

  • For Europe: an Ultimate Packing Checklist (see the show notes/site).

“Operate as if you’ll get only the basics; everything else is a bonus.” — Cory

How to Start If You’re Not a Business Owner

You don’t need a startup to go—a remote job is often the easiest path.
Try two weeks or one month, see how it fits, then scale.

A Lavender Pivot (Turning Lemons into Lavender)

When a concert plan fell through in France, the foursome detoured to Provençal lavender fields for a picnic—cheeses, breads, and a scented nap among purple rows. Flexibility rewarded.

What Cory & Jessie Are Building Now

Storly (storly.ai): an AI that interviews people and writes their stories, originally inspired by Cory’s father’s unwritten novels. They now help nonprofits capture, preserve, and share the stories of the communities they serve.

“Some people can tell a story; others do incredible work but don’t know where to start. Storly helps them be heard.” — Isaac

Transcript (Click to expand)

Isaac: [00:00:00] Hello, everyone, and welcome to full time. 

Kim: We almost did it together. 

Isaac: We are very excited today because we actually have. Guests on our show for the first time and I can tell you that when Kim and I were planning on bringing in guests We knew immediately who our first guests were going to be and they are our good friends Cory and Jesse 

Jessie: Thanks for having us 

Kim: thank you so much for saying yes 

Cory: We were there at the beginning when you're like we want to do this, what do you think and we're like, oh hell, yeah [00:01:00] 

Isaac: Absolutely, so, you know just a little bit about Cory and Jesse Cory has actually been a mentor of mine for many years It's been almost like nine or ten years now I met Cory actually through his LinkedIn company.

He runs a highly successful LinkedIn marketing company And I actually ended up buying his program and his services. And he did office hours and he did a whole, uh, teaching about like how to get a mentor. And so I thought like, Cory seems like a pretty cool guy, if I ask him to be my mentor after he does a presentation about being and getting mentors, he has to say yes, right?

So 

All Laughing: I called him 

Isaac: up and I asked him to be my mentor and there was just like this pause, like, I think Cory was like, I did not expect someone to meet me. I didn't. No. Pick me up on 

Jessie: that. 

Isaac: Talk about fast action. It was awesome. It was like a 15 second pause of like silence and then Corey was like, 

All Laughing: yeah, [00:02:00] yeah. 

Cory: I was like, this guy's pretty smart.

And also. He trapped me. 

All Laughing: And 

Isaac: so and then like an hour later, you give me a call back and you're like, Hey, I'll be my your mentor, but you also like want to work for me. And so that's how we started like working together and helping out Mojo. And, and then Jesse actually is a very similar story to Kim in many ways where you were a barista at Starbucks.

And got to meet Cory and Cory introduced this world of entrepreneurship. And now Jesse runs a very successful, uh, graphic design company. And And also 

Kim: helps Cory. And helps Cory with his projects. And I have also worked for Cory. Everybody works for Cory. Everybody works for Cory. 

Isaac: I'm so lucky. 

Cory: I'm 

Isaac: so, 

Cory: this is amazing.

Isaac: Um, so we are so excited to have you on full time to travel time, because honestly, a lot of our [00:03:00] inspiration for living this lifestyle came from you too. And, um, can you guys tell us how long have you been traveling now? Full time. 

Cory: Yeah. Full time. We, since 2017, it was December of 2017. That's when we first started our adventures.

And I, I remember up until then we had only really been doing it, you know, once or twice a year, mostly around new years. Like we would, we would go on these amazing adventures for new years because we always wanted to be in a new place for, for new years and experience that. It was a tradition of ours.

And we've been doing that for well over 10 years. And, but I think there was this idea that we had that was like, Hey, you know, we do this every year we do, you know, whatever it is, it's about two weeks that we take off. We'll go somewhere for Christmas and New Year's and like, what if we did this like longer, what would that look like?

And so that that's really when we started saying, you know, maybe this is possible and that's what, but then it all happened in [00:04:00] 2017. 

Jessie: Absolutely. Our first country that we went to was Colombia and Argentina and so what we did is we tried it for two months just to make sure we could survive in close quarters and not kill each other and we successfully did it and now we've been doing it for about eight years now.

Kim: And, just to test it, you still love each other, right? Of course! Hundreds of times. 

Cory: Our relationship grows even deeper all the time. It's awesome. That's so funny. 

Kim: That's like the number one question we get, like, all the time from random people is like, And you still like each other, you work together, you live together, you travel together, and I'm like Oh yeah, like not everyone can do it clearly, but was funny, 

Cory: like 10 years ago I was in my office and one of our clients, his name was Greg.

He came in and we were talking about these travels that we were thinking about doing. He's like, you know, I went on a vacation for three weeks with my wife. And I said, never again. Three weeks is too much time. He's like, we almost got a divorce. He said, I would only ever do [00:05:00] 10 days or two weeks. Right. 

All Laughing: Max.

I was 

Cory: like, Oh, okay. Okay. Kind of freaked me out a little bit. I was like, what's going to happen. It's been amazing. I mean, you know, it's I, you know, and I get it because I think during COVID a lot of people experience what it's like to be with their spouses a lot more full time. And it caused some problems for a lot of people.

But I think something that we do is, is really unique. We do personal development all the time together. And so we're always kind of like, you know, refreshing the relationship. And so it, it really kind of helps us. really grow together in all kinds of different ways. So I think that's one of the secrets.

If you are going to travel full time, right? Um, yeah, you're going to be spending a lot of time together and you really want to like, not only love each other, but you want to like each other at the end of the day. 

All Laughing: So 

Cory: there's a little hack, uh, keep, keep growing together and doing personal development. And that's, that'll always allow you to put a place where you can.

You [00:06:00] know, not get where you want to choke somebody 

Kim: Hello 

Isaac: That leads us into one of our first questions. We wanted to ask you too, and i'd love to hear like an answer from both of you is If you had like one tip you could give to like, how do you travel as a couple successfully? I know Kory just jumped in with an awesome tip, so I'm gonna ask, maybe you give us another one.

But what is that like one tip that you have found, uh, and Jessie, if you want to start, what is that one tip that you found that like really makes a difference when traveling with your, your significant other? 

Jessie: Yeah, so I think we've got a really good system with this, so when it comes to traveling, I'm like all logistics.

I will find out how to get there, train, plane, automobile, and then Corey will book the place, research the place. So it's like we've got two different things that we're looking into. We all, we know and trust that the other person can handle it and is totally capable of doing that. And so we have all of our trust in each other that [00:07:00] allows us to focus on our two pieces and then makes it a very seamless travel transition.

Cory: It's pretty crazy. 'cause yeah, when we travel, like I barely know where we're going. Like, you know, just show up 

Jessie: like, okay, time to go. 

Cory: Yeah. All I have to do is get packed and then Jesse's like, we gotta leave at this time. We gotta be at the airport by this time. This is where we're gonna go. And so like, I'm taking like a mini vaca.

I'm so lucky I get to take a little mini vacation when we do travel because she's handling all of that logistics, you know, and, uh, and, and, and basically. For me, that is so nice because I know that we're always going to get there on time. If you left it up to me, we'd be late for planes. We'd be, you know, we would miss, we would miss trips.

Yeah, it'd be terrible. 

Jessie: In our whole eight years of traveling, we've only missed one flight. Wow. 

Kim: Probably my own doing. I don't know. It was an 

Jessie: early, it was an early flight. So I mean, gosh, hard to hear 

Kim: this though, because like Jesse [00:08:00] is Isaac and I'm Corey. Isaac is like, Hey, get in the car. Like let's drive.

I have no idea where I'm driving, driving majority of the time. It's just like, where the heck are we going? I'm like driving through this tiny alleyway. I was like, where are you taking us? Cause I know, I know 

Isaac: Kim and I, we travel a bit differently than you guys. Typically where, where you road trip a lot more.

And so I'm the one who plans out pretty much all of the travels and logistics and everything. Then Kim drives us. And so from the outside, looking in, you can be like, Kim drives all the time. That's unfair. 

Kim: But please don't give me a map. It's unfair to make me navigate. 

Isaac: I'm doing all the work beforehand, planning everything out, navigating them while we're road tripping.

I'm also navigating. So I leave space up to figure out like cool things to do while we're traveling. Cause there's things that like pop up on the map that you just won't see when you're not like close by. You talk to locals and they tell you about things and [00:09:00] all this kind of stuff. So I'm like navigating as we're traveling too.

But I think the biggest thing 

Kim: about like traveling as a couple. Is knowing what each other's strengths and flaws are and to your point jesse like knowing who is responsible for what because like How can you meet or exceed each other's expectations if you don't know what you're supposed to be doing? I thought you were planning this.

I thought you were doing that like you guys know what? Each other does just like we know what we're supposed to do. Yeah, like 

Cory: when we get, we get to an area like Jesse will go to the store, she'll stake out, you know, the, yeah, 

Jessie: and coffee. That's about the first two things I look at. 

Cory: Yeah, but she, it's cool because we get there and she's like, okay, tomorrow, you know, we'll have enough, you know, we'll go eat dinner somewhere.

And then she'll be like in the morning, she'll go get. Supply provisions. She'll get provisions, right? So like what we need for breakfast and lunch, and if we're going to make dinners, what that looks like. And she, you know, she'll [00:10:00] just make sure that we're all set up, which is really, truly amazing. And you need that.

You need, so I would say just pick some roles and just go with it and just kind of calibrate as you go. And, and over time you'll learn, like, you know, One of you may be better at at finding the place or figuring out where to go. One of you may be better at kind of navigating and getting there. So you'll just find out what that looks like.

Kim: Yeah. Also, extra shout out to Jesse because, uh, on these trips for provisions, you are a powerhouse. of a woman. I love how much you walk. This girl walks everywhere, like with bags and bags of groceries, sometimes multiple times a day. Like it's incredible and I love it. And it's your workout. It's like your Zen time to like just walk and do your thing.

But also like you're providing for both of you, which is fantastic. And I've eaten your food. I approve, you know, 

Jessie: it was so fun to walk with you too. I know you, you came out on our, our, our provision trips. So I really enjoyed that. I know Bill got whistled at once, that was 

Kim: pretty good. 

Cory: Yeah. And you know, [00:11:00] there's also, if you're really lazy, there's like Easy Cart, um, which I think is like, you could just order your groceries to your house if you're in kind of an area where you can do that.

Now, a lot of times we travel in places where that's not always available, but it is nice to know that there are other options as well. 

Jessie: Yeah, Uber Eats is in a lot of places. Yeah. 

Isaac: And I think really what you're, you're, you know, you've talked about, which I'm really glad you brought up was, you know, a lot of times people look at relationships as being equal and fair, but if everything is like equal and fair, it's not the most powerful of relationship can be.

All Laughing: We all have 

Isaac: different strengths and weaknesses. So we, like Kim and I, we don't look at things as like everything needs to be equal. It's what are you best at? What am I best at? Let's combine these. And because we're doing that, we are able to elevate what we're able to produce to a whole nother level. And then I think.

When traveling, that's so important. I think that's why some couples are challenged because they think everything needs to be like, I have to cook the same amount as my [00:12:00] partner while I'm traveling, I have to drive the same amount as my partner while I'm traveling. I have to, and that's never going to be like the most optimal while you're traveling, because you're not.

Tapping into each other's strengths. 

Kim: That's sure to cause mayhem, if I'm being honest. Yeah. So thank you 

Isaac: for bringing that up. And I think that's a really, really good point of like tap into each other's strengths. And as, as Corey said, you know, you're, you'll figure it out as you go along as well. Like, you know, maybe what the roles that you would decide in the beginning actually aren't a hundred percent correct.

And that's what happened with Kim and I, when we launched our business. Is they weren't the right roles for us when we launch a business We had to figure that out and change our roles up as we went along and not 

Kim: just the wrong roles But it was rocky in the beginning of like starting our own business And I think that's a big reason why because we were not in the right roles and the right seats as part of that Yeah And one thing I just want to mention because you kind of talked about the origin story of your cory relationship And how we all met each other But for those who are listening and watching right now, too, I want to talk about our travel pact because like, how have we not talked about that yet?

We've known each other for years and years, but [00:13:00] one thing that's cool about like our relationship that it sounds cheesy, but I cherish and I love so, so much is the fact that we have this awesome travel pact that no matter where we are in the world, we will always find a way to live with each other for at least a month.

once per year, which is so awesome. And we've been doing that. What guys for like five and a while, five or six years now, I believe five 

Isaac: years. Yeah. I mean, we did it 2019. I think it's the first year we did it. Cause I think the second year was 2020 during COVID. 

Kim: I mean, we've stayed in Oregon. We've stayed in.

Phoenix, we've stayed in France all over the place. Last year in 2023 was our first international travels together. So that's why, you know, a big part of this episode two, like in episode six, we talked about Europe. And in this episode, we're really going to pick your brains about all of your European travels, both with us and without us.

Because, you know, you're our best friends, but there are some things we just don't know about you. 

Cory: Well, good. And I just want to thank [00:14:00] you guys because you really pioneered that whole thing about, you know, making sure that we spent time together every year. And it's been about a month or we'll break it up.

We'll do a week here, a week there, right? Which is great. Like we did a You know, um, we did a week in like wine country in San Diego, right. And that was really fun. And then we did another week in the South of France and one, one area of France. And then we did another week in another area. So it was like, it's really cool.

So, you know, thanks for doing that. I was, it's really been, you know, cause when you travel, if it can tend to get somewhat lonely. Because, you know, if you're in a place and you develop friendships there, right? I mean, you're, you kind of miss out on those friendships. So it's really, it's really been nice to travel and, and hang out and travel with friends, right?

And I think that's one of the cool things about it is. You know, it's such a uplifting thing. You get to share experiences, you get to laugh together. And now we've got stories that we tell all the time, you know, like the French dude that says, really? [00:15:00] And, uh, it's like, you know, it's, it's just really a nice.

And so initially I remember there was a year during COVID where. We, Jesse and I, it was pretty much just her and I, and, and, you know, lockdowns, we were stuck in New Zealand, which was amazing, but still stuck in New Zealand and we didn't really see friends, um, you know, for, for almost that entire year. Um, but it, it, and so it really kind of gets you crystal clear.

It's like, it's just such a nice thing. So if you're out there and you know, yeah, start your traveling, do what you got to do, but ultimately like you'll meet other couples in your journeys or, you know, you'll bring some of your other friends into it and, and, and the trips will just get better and better.

So 

Isaac: yeah, and that, that year, uh, during 2020, we got like, um, a beach mansion in you know, it was normally eight grand a month. We got it for 4, 000, you know, to split it between us, you know, and that was like, That was a very cool time. I mean, we had deers that would like walk through our yard every [00:16:00] day.

And, uh, yeah, it was, it was awesome. But what we really want to jump into is Europe. Cause we just did a whole episode ourselves about tips on Americans traveling to Europe. And you two are the most traveled Americans throughout Europe that I know. Um, so we'd love to learn more about your Europe adventures.

So my first question is, I don't know if you have this on the top of your head, but do you know how many countries in Europe you've been to? 

Jessie: Yes. What's the final count? 

Cory: Uh, yeah. So, I was just looking this up. So, it's 21 countries. Um, there's about 33 of them, I believe. If I'm not mistaken. So, um, So, yeah.

21 countries that we've been to. Um, which is, which is great. I didn't even, you know, it's funny because I didn't even think it was that many, uh, until I really looked at it. It was like, oh, yeah. There's some, and then there's, there's ones like Is that Europe? And this is just me being a dumb American, but you know, cause it's like there's ones that are like Turkey, for instance, that's half European and also half Asian.

So, [00:17:00] you know, yeah, yeah, yeah. So 

Isaac: we got to knock off a new country for all of us together when we went to Monaco. Yeah, that's right. Second smallest country in the world after the Vatican and is surrounded by France. Yeah, yeah. And Jesse reminded me that 

Cory: like we went to Monaco and I was like, yeah, and no offense to anybody if you're from Monaco, but it was just, uh, we spent like a day there.

Uh, and, and so it's like, you know, and that's probably about the least. That we've ever spent anywhere. Typically when we're traveling, we're spending a third, at least 30 days in a country, right? Which is really great. It really gives you the ability to experience a country and because like sometimes we'll be in Like what we did was really cool because we stayed in many different cities Because there's a lot of cities to experience right and sometimes when you're in a you like when you're in Turkey We stayed in Istanbul for the entire time for the entire 30 days because it's just so much to see there's There's so much going on in Istanbul.

And um, and so it's yeah, so we've been to [00:18:00] 21 at this point We've got 12 more I believe to to get to but yeah It's been it's been a lot of fun and our first European travel or a trip was actually The time that we got engaged and that was, uh, we got engaged in Spain and we actually got married in Spain as well.

But, uh, yeah, we got engaged in Barcelona and, uh, that started, uh, a whole kind that was like, what, how many years ago? A decade ago, was that? Yeah, 

Jessie: 2015. 

Cory: Yeah. 2015. Yeah. So Awesome. That's 

Isaac: amazing. 

Kim: That is amazing. And we still have to go to Barcelona. Yeah, for sure. Let's do it. I 

Isaac: really wanna go to a Barcelona football game.

Oh, 

Kim: I'm, oh yeah, 

Isaac: that would be like a whole spiritual. because I've been following Barcelona for like a decade now. So I 

Kim: would probably that's all happiness. There's so much emotion in those stadiums. Like, 

Isaac: so do you guys know, like how much time collectively you've spent in Europe? Well, 

All Laughing: that's 

Cory: a good question.

I mean, I 21 [00:19:00] months if we're looking at 21 countries. So 20 months, you know, at least I would say 

Isaac: about a year and a 

Cory: half. 

Isaac: Or, or longer total spent in Europe, which is pretty, pretty amazing again as an American who most Americans I'm guessing get to spend a month, the three months total, the whole life, uh, you know, in, in traveling through Europe.

So, 

Cory: well, you know, there's usually about like the big five, right? Like if you're, and really it's the big three. So like if you end up going to Europe, um, you're. You go to you go to France, right? That's a big one. London, right? So the U. K. And you know, oftentimes people will go to Italy. So those those are the big three that people typically go to.

And then then they'll kind of pick out the other ones. So they might go to Spain. They might go to Germany, Switzerland, right? Some of these ones. So, um, yeah, it's So that's what we find normally. It's it's about three countries that people, if they've gone to Europe, they might've taken, you know, a European vacation where they, where they hit three countries during the course of like two weeks, right.

And that'll be, that'll be their European [00:20:00] vacation. And that might be. You know, the, the, the one and only time they might go, um, but still people always have great stories about it. So, yeah. Yeah, 

Kim: especially you guys of all people. You guys have some great stories. We should, 

Isaac: we should ask a question if we get a great story out of that.

Well, no, I was going to ask 

Kim: anyways, because you just mentioned a lot of people don't visit a lot of these countries. Like for both of you, what is like a lesser visited European country that you guys absolutely fell in love with? 

Jessie: Oh, I love this question. I love Georgia. I was, I was so taken aback from it.

Just the people are so hospitable. They're so nice. And the food's really great. Um, but it just, it was a very charming country. 

Cory: Yeah. So Georgia, it's, um, It's near Russia, right? And so it's got that kind of a lot of similar cuisine, I guess you'd say. We love the cuisine there. So there's, um, uh, there's this really kind of cool.

It's almost like a cheese pizza for adults. [00:21:00] Right called catch a party delicious You know whenever we see a georgian restaurant now anywhere in the world. We typically go there like we have to have it Yeah, um, but they have just such great cuisine. You know, there's like something called church kella Which is a, um, it's, it's like a dessert.

So imagine somebody took us a needle and poked a hole through hazelnuts. And then, you know, when you're getting the tree ready, right. And you kind of have this string and you put popcorn, you know, you stick the needle through and you stick the string through that. So they do that through this, these hazelnuts, then they dip it in kind of a, um.

A grape juice kind of mixture with a little bit of gelatin and they pull it out and they let it dry. And it becomes this kind of gummy substance, which is delicious. Yeah. It's so, so, so good. So that's really great. Uh, there's something else, um, called scene Kala, which is like dumplings. And we went on a tour with a guy named George, everybody there's named George.

Yeah. And, um, [00:22:00] and so he took us to one of his favorite restaurants on the journey we were on. And we had dumplings. And so, you know, they, they bring these dumplings and they're steaming hot. And, and, um, I get my fork and my knife and I start, I'm about to cut into it. He's like, no, no, no, no, no, no. And so I was like, Whoa, I was, I was like, I was like, was my food poison?

Like what's going on? And so, but I was about to commit a Georgian sin. Which was to use a knife in order to cut into this. Cause the way you're supposed to do it is poke a little bit of hole, little hole in it. Right. And suck the juices out because it's like a soup dumpling. So there's got this like really rich, delicious broth in there and a little bit of meat depending on which ones you have.

And that's the way you're supposed to do it. You cut the hole, you suck the juice out, and then you can eat it. Thank God 

Kim: he saved you. I know, you would have had juice all over your plate. Like the European version 

Cory: of crawfish. Yeah, that's right. They 

All Laughing: would have 

Cory: taken me right to the border and kicked my ass out.

And 

Isaac: it's so fascinating how [00:23:00] these different cultures, these different countries have different, completely different ways of preparing food, and they're so good. It's like, You never could have conceived of this way that they created this food and yet it's like, wow, this is amazing. 

Cory: Yeah. Yeah, absolutely.

Yeah, it's it's in the ketchup. Puri was so good. I remember when um, We were in czech republic in prague and we went by a georgian restaurant. And so um And we had a couple of drinks. Actually, it was late night. We had, um, we'd eaten at a Michelin star restaurant and we spent like many hours just hanging out after they closed with the owner, just drinking wine.

And he gave us some of his very fine, you know, whiskey. And, uh, and so we had a great time. And also they were filming a, uh, like a movie scene right out front. That's why he was there late. It's because he, he, the, the movie actors needed to come in and use his restroom. And they kind of used his place as, you know, getting, setting up food and stuff.

 It's late at night and the door is open for this. , this, [00:24:00] uh, Georgian restaurant. So we bust in there. And so, and I'm like, I'm like, I'm so glad they're open. They're closed. And so the chef comes out and the waiter, they're the only two people there. 

And they're 

Jessie: having this amazing. They're like, 

Cory: we're close. I was like, what? I was like, well, could you make me one? I mean, we're here. I don't know. 

Jessie: They're that good. Did they do it? Did they make you come drink? No, no, 

we should 

Isaac: leave. You are so good. I remember sitting out on the curb of Los Favs here in Arizona and they were completely closed.

And you somehow convinced them to reopen up and cook burritos for all of us. That's because 

All Laughing: Cory was on the other side of the glass, like, 

Isaac: But they wouldn't let us into the store, so we're just sitting on the curb eating burritos. She 

All Laughing: said, we'll make it for you, but you eat outside. 

Cory: Yeah. 

All Laughing: That's so funny. . 

Cory: Yeah, but Georgia was like, it was one of those really interesting Places, so many great stories.

We, the, if somebody really [00:25:00] modern, like almost space age buildings and so many like old school kind of like, you know, back in the day art deco style buildings as well. So it's a really cool mix of a lot of different things, very walkable. Um, and. And also when we were there, they were filming the fast and the furious.

So it was really cool. Yeah, we actually, um, so right on the street outside our flat, that's what they say in Europe, I guess, um, instead of apartment or condo. And so they were, they were filming. So like they were driving up and down and they had this big ass tank, you know, and they had these other two like sports cars and there's guns going off and stuff like that.

And so, um, And we'd sometimes walk out there and see them kind of shooting the scene, um, and it was all very hush hush because nobody was supposed to know what was going on. It was very top secret, that sort of thing. But we were so, it was so cool just to be right there as they're doing it. And we're like, looking for Vin Diesel and The Rock and they weren't there because they just had their, they were just, they had their stunt doubles, I guess, um, there, [00:26:00] but it was really, it was really cool.

But it's just, It's such a cool little drive. And, um, and so anyway, that was one thing. And the other thing was, uh, I just remember. Uh, Jesse and I were in the flat and we come out of the flat and there is a group of dogs about 12 or 13 dogs Sitting around in a circle having a meeting like literally that's what it looked like And so and then and then you know, we came out they were like, okay, you know like disband a little bit , but then they followed us we went we were walking about a mile down to the the square to go eat and so they all like 

All Laughing: Doggy entourage?

Yeah, they were our 

Cory: entourage. It was so incredible. In fact, they formed a circle around Jessie., you know, I, I don't know if, maybe they think she was like Snow White or something. Yeah, that's 

Jessie: right. They were chasing cars and like, people would walk by and they'd bark at them. It's like, they were protecting us.

Cory: There was two people that you could tell right away they did not like. And they just barked ferociously at them and they formed a [00:27:00] circle around us. And then, yeah, like, one of them, two would be on guard, like, in the streets, like, chasing cars that were getting too close. It was, it was wild, so. That 

Kim: is crazy.

Very interesting. Yeah, yeah. We got hot dogs for them to reward. Go ahead. Isaac has a question this time. 

Isaac: Well, thank you for sharing that with us. And, you know, again, it's like, there's so many cool countries in Europe that us as Americans typically don't even think about visiting. Or people 

Kim: don't talk about.

So, yeah, thank you for 

Isaac: sharing this hidden gem of Georgia. and, uh, go meet George in Georgia. You know, 

Jessie:

Isaac: just have like a song in my head, George, George, George, and 

Cory: Georgia. And they're seriously like every other dude that's there. His name is George. It's, it's wild. So 

Isaac: one thing we want to ask you is what is one of your most memorable purchases you've ever made in Europe?

Jessie: That's a good one. 

Cory: Uh, I'll tell you the, the, the most memorable one for me. And so was in Switzerland. [00:28:00] And Switzerland is kind of an interesting place, right? You got, I mean, it's beautiful. It's gorgeous. They got the Swiss Alps, well known for chocolate. We can talk more about that. Um, but I think one of my favorite purchases was not an actual thing, but it was, it was, uh, you know, you could buy cheese out of a vending machine there.

Oh yeah. So, you know, so this was like such a cool thing because I've never seen cheese in a vending machine and that's what they do there. Because, you know, they've got all these milk cows and they're very much into that. And like we were, Jesse and I were hiking down from the Swiss Alps and, um, which is another cool story.

We were up there. There's a, it's kind of the highest and oldest. Not the highest restaurants, but it's like a guest house. Called asia Um, and so it's it's really cool If you look at it, it's like literally built into the cliffside got one of the best views of the entire planet um in a place called like vasa owen or something like that and um And so we were hiking [00:29:00] down and so right near we're getting near the town.

There's uh, there's kind of like a little And in this little shack, they have milk. And so you could put quarters in or euros, little coins, and then you could get a, you know, a little cup and you get a glass of milk and this is as fresh as it gets because the cows are literally, you're surrounded by them.

And and it's really cool, but it's, it's, it's ice cold. And then they also have a little vending machine with a little bit of chocolate powder you can put in, make some chocolate milk. So I think for me, that was one of the best purchases we've ever had. And, and, um. Ever. And so I'll turn it over to Jesse, see what she thinks.

Jessie: It's not often you're, you go on a hike and you want to ice cold glass of milk afterwards, but in Switzerland, I'm probably looking at the cow 

Cory: that it was from right there. You know, just like eye contact. I was like, is this from you?

Jessie: I would say, so Cory and I have a tradition of collecting Christmas ornaments wherever we go. So from each country that we go to, we. Get a little trinket, [00:30:00] something that we can hang on our Christmas tree one day when we have a place that we put up a Christmas tree. Um, but we have quite a collection of, of different ones from all the countries that we've been to.

So it's going to be cool to actually bring them out of their boxes and hang them up one day. 

Kim: Yeah. Awesome. If you want us to have a signature tree, like a Corey Jesse tree while you guys are traveling, we'll have like A second tree, which you 

Isaac: guys spend Christmas with us every like two to three years.

Yeah. Hell 

Cory: yeah. You don't have, you don't have cats. So there's no, yeah, you don't have cats. So there's no, uh, danger of them, like, uh, getting in the tree and then causing it to topple. 

Kim: No destruction. I remember 

Isaac: one of our first days hiking in Switzerland, Kim hears these bells and she's like, What are, what are these bells, Isaac?

Why are these bells going off all the time? And I'm like, they're, they're cowbells, Kim. And she's like, no, cowbells aren't a real thing. You just, you just, 

All Laughing: you 

Isaac: play them in SNL, you know? Um, and I'm like, I'm like, Kim, the, the legit cowbells, if we come over the hill and there's a bunch of [00:31:00] cows, they're all where their cowbells are.

They're 

Kim: huge bells too. And it's not just the cows I found out, it's the goats and every, everybody's got a bell. But like, Kim, the goats. Tim was 

Isaac: like, her mind was blown that cowbells were actually bells that cows wore. Like, she did not anticipate that. She just thought it was a musical instrument. 

Cory: It's crazy because, yeah, in Switzerland and Austria and probably other parts, I mean, They're, they have this time period where they, you know, it transitions from summer and fall to winter.

And so they bring the cows down from the mountain, um, and you know, and, and so it's like this whole ordeal. Everybody dresses up, right? There's this whole procession. Flower crowns on the cows. Yeah, flower crowns, right? Oh yeah. 

Isaac: We, we missed it by a couple weeks and if we had known we would have like changed our plans around.

We got, we should all go back there for that festival because it's like a huge festival when they're bringing them down from the mountains. I want to celebrate 

All Laughing: some cows. That would be 

Isaac: an awesome experience. Yeah, it was 

Cory: really cool. Like, we got stuck, I think, for like an [00:32:00] hour, maybe an hour and a half behind like a cow procession, you know?

And, uh, because they go on the roads, right? Like, where else are they going to go? So they're, the cows are in the road, the entire family, and it was ages, like, You know, like eight all the way up to 80. Mm-hmm . You know, the cows were 

Kim: eight to 80 . 

Cory: No, the the people. Yeah. The pe, the cows were, I have no idea. I, I couldn't look at a cow and say, you know, you know, you're 39.

Right? So like a grand 

All Laughing: cow . Yeah. Yeah. Um, 

Cory: so no, but it was like, the people, you know, the families that bring down the cows, it's, they're all wearing leader. Hosen. Uhhuh. Right. Uh, they've got flower crowns on and, you know. all the way up to, you know, grandpapa and uh, and you know, he was very spry and, and excited.

It was a really cool, cool time of year. So I, I definitely recommend that time. 

Isaac: Awesome. But uh, wait, Kim, do you, do you hear that sound? 

Kim: Well, what is it? What 

Isaac: is that? 

Kim: I think it's. The rapid fire question game where the theme song is slow, [00:33:00] but the questions are fast. 

All Laughing: That's 

Isaac: great. I created the best theme song and tagline.

No, no, 

Kim: I woke up with it in my mind. It's 

Jessie: perfect. It's perfect. That was a download. 

Kim: of this game are very simple. Isaac, tell us about the rules. Alright, so 

Isaac: the rules are simple. We're gonna each ask each other a question about, uh, Europe. First, um, one of them are gonna be about us traveling through Europe, and then the other one could be anything about Europe.

And the key to this is that we're not looking for the best answer, we're looking for the first thing that pops into your brain. 

Kim: Right. 

Isaac: Got it. Okay, cool. Do you want to start off? 

Kim: No, but I will anyways. Um, number one for both of you. What was one of the most memorable Airbnbs you stayed at with us in Europe?

All Laughing: Probably the 

Kim: angry tier one. The three tier in Marseille, in France. Yeah, in [00:34:00] Marseille. 

Cory: All right, 

Kim: what about you, Corey? 

Cory: I was going to say Marseille, like that was really, really cool. But I'd say the one for me was the one house in Montpelier, right? Mont Lamar. Yeah. Mont Lamar. Yeah, that, um, that Napoleon stayed at as well.

And you know, I mean, I don't know if that's actually true or not, but, you know, I think it 

All Laughing: looks legit. Yeah, 

Cory: it looked legit. Right. It did. So. That's cool. I mean, that's a really nice piece of history. Yeah, that was nice. 

Jessie: And we sat outside and drank the rest of our rakija that we brought from Serbia. That was really nice.

Cory: Yeah. So for people, you know, that haven't been to Serbia, um, they love their rakija. 

Jessie: And it's delicious. 

Cory: And it's a spirit, high octane stuff we're talking, you know, and And so basically they drink it. I mean, when I was walking, we were walking around Serbia, I'd see a couple and they would be having it for breakfast.

Legit breakfast. They would be having a little, you know, a little glass of, yeah. It's so strong. I was like, what? That's crazy. What 

Jessie: did our friend's grandpa say that it [00:35:00] like gives them good health to drink? 

Cory: Supposedly, it gives you good health. I figured you'd say like it grows hair 

Kim: on your chest or something.

Yeah, I agree, you know. 

Isaac: And I remember there, because we got there, do you remember the host's name? What, Marseille? Yeah, Marseille. Oh, 

Kim: Bruno. Bruno, that's what I thought it was. 

Isaac: So Bruno, um, Kim can speak solid French, so you know the He gave me 

Kim: the whole tour. He 

Isaac: gave him the whole tour and Kim's translating and he's about to leave and he goes 

Kim: No, no, no, he walked all the way down the stairs, all down the three flights, and then as soon as he had his hand on the door, he was like No, hang on.

And then he booked it and just like ran up the stairs and I was like, what is happening? So I just followed him and then he gets down on his knees and he opens this like drawer and like 

Isaac: secret compartment 

Kim: he pulls out the pasties and he's like This is the good shit. Like he pointed and he explained, he said, you only drink a little, like, this is not what you're used to.

He's like, this is gonna, this is the good stuff. 

Isaac: And then he [00:36:00] opened up a picture frame. Yeah. And I remember looking at Corey's eyes, Corey was like, what? And he opened up this picture frame and it's all like the shot glasses in this picture frame. That was 

Kim: so cool. 

Isaac: And then Corey made us, uh, you know, he looked up how to drink this alcohol and made it 

All Laughing: properly.

And then we 

Isaac: got to watch Baust Bastille Day. Which is, uh, French is essentially Independence Day. It's on, in July 14th. And we got to watch Bastille Day from our balcony at that Airbnb overlooking the Mediterranean Sea and got to watch all the fireworks going up. That was so magical. It was a very, very cool experience.

Cory: Uh, yeah. And then we would go out there and, you know, the food was amazing. The view was amazing. We were right next to Notre Dame, which I thought there was only one, you know, in Paris, but apparently there's more than one. Yeah. And that lit up 

Kim: every night too, the Notre Dame. We could see it 

Isaac: so well from our, from our Airbnb.

Kim: That's so cool. Should I ask my second question? No, we should go, 

Isaac: go to one of you two. Jesse's got the [00:37:00] questions. Okay. 

Jessie: Ready? How do you properly say croissant? For salt , 

All Laughing: I would say croissant. . 

Kim: We've gotta make that 

Cory: croissant. Yeah. It took me so long just to figure out, it's like, what? How do you, how do you do that?

Like, what are you saying? What? Yeah. 

All Laughing: Funny question. . Yeah, . 

Isaac: Alright. So my question to you is, what was the best activity that we all did together while we were traveling throughout France? What's your favorite activity? 

Jessie: I got to go with Fanny. Yeah, Fanny was the best. She was just such a sweetheart and it was a really nice private sailing adventure that we went on and we got to.

Women at sea. I was just thinking about it this morning how good that sea felt when we dove in and just like Spent our afternoon there before we before we logged into work. Oh, yeah, 

Isaac: that's right. So we went out during the day and [00:38:00] I'd found like this person who had a private, you know sailboat is a small sailboat Cory got to, like, actually sail.

Like, you were, Cory, you were, like, legitimately, like, running the, the sail, and like And 

Kim: Jessie had a hold of the, I don't know, the boat terms. The thing, you know, the what? 

Cory: Well, obviously, we're great students, because she's actually teaching us how to Sale , 

All Laughing: you taught us better than this ? 

Isaac: If you're, if you're in Marsa, you should look fanny up.

Do you remember? And 

All Laughing: Captain Coco, captain Coco, captain Coco, and 

Isaac: she is on uh, Google Maps. And so that's actually how I found her. And I think it was like $400 for the day. But again, we split it, you know, between four people and a private sale. But we got to go to a cove. And the coolest thing about the Mediterranean Sea to me is how floatable, 

All Laughing: it's 'cause it's so 

Kim: salty, right?

It's so 

Isaac: salty that I didn't realize like you just. And 

Kim: it's very clear so we could see all the fishies and everything, which was so cool. And, uh, Fanny gave us, uh, what was it, snorkeling gear or something, too? So we could, like, see all the [00:39:00] coral and the fishies beneath us. And, extra bonus story to this one, too, because if you guys remember, um, when we moved to a different Airbnb, Isaac and I, Fanny did give me props.

She was like, Hey, if you have questions or need like French advice, you can reach out to me. So we needed to reach out to her because we went to a new place and I could not figure out the appliances for the life of me. They looked completely different than all the other places. Google did not understand any of these photos or how to use like the oven, the symbols were different.

So I called her and she was like, yeah, let's hop on a video call. And then the first thing she said when we got on the call was, yeah, French appliances are stupid. 

Isaac: I don't know if they're all stupid, but they are different. I mean, the ovens are completely different. What are they? 

Kim: Stovetop, stovetop.

Jesse taught us that actually. Conduction ovens or induction or conduction. Induction. Like that. Maybe conduction ovens. And I think 

Isaac: they're far more efficient [00:40:00] and they actually reduce, uh, fire hazard significantly. I think it's actually a superior technology, but when you're not used to it, so we're trying to get it started.

And for some of these, uh, stovetops, you have to use a specific pan or else the stove top won't even turn on. So we're trying to get this. And Jesse's like, no, you have to use this pan. And it comes with this attachable handle. I mean, it was just so foreign to us. 

Kim: pans and pots with no handles. It just like clips on and clips on and clips on.

It's, it's pretty cool. And then 

Isaac: I remember we had posted some pictures of us out on, you know, Fannie sales boat. I remember my mom asking me like later on, she's like, Was Corey taking like a business call while you guys were out bailing in the background, you in the back talking? And I'm like, yeah, that's Corey, man.

He's gonna hustle, you know, doesn't matter if we're out in a sailboat in the middle of the Mediterranean Sea, he's getting on that network. 

Cory: Yeah, I remember I was talking to my good friend Damien. And uh, yeah, that was, He, I think we were talking about, um, he was going to put me on his podcast [00:41:00] or something and, and I was going to, he was going to promote something that I was doing, but I, I remember that call.

Like there's, there's not often you take a call on a sailboat in the south of France. 

Isaac: So Corey, what about you? What was your most memorable? 

Cory: So we were in Nice and, um, one of the things that Jesse and I like to do, because we work, you know, we work during the week. We're not, uh, you know, a lot of people think that we're just on a perpetual vacation, which is cool.

 But it's for us, like what's really fun is, is running businesses while we're traveling. Right. And so one of the things we like to do on the weekends, if we're in a place that's kind of beachy is we'll go to beach clubs and we will just chill. Right. And so like when we were in the south of France, we did this in Cannes.

 We're in Nice. And so, uh, we were talking. to Kim and Isaac, and they'd never been to a beach club before. And so we're like, what? So we're like, okay, let's go find one. And so it's a little bit different in Nice because, you know, because it's so windy there, [00:42:00] they actually put down a lot of rocks and gravel, because instead of like sand, it just blows everywhere and gets dusty and all that stuff.

So, um, so it got kind of like rocky, rocky beaches. Anyway, we were searching for a good beach club. And so, um, we found, we, we found one at a really old hotel called Le Negresco. And this hotel, um, you know, and, and a lot of famous people have stayed there. And I was just kind of curious. I was like, you know, let's go inside and see what it's, see what it's like.

And we go inside and it's like, just marble everywhere. Like the ceilings are like, I don't even know how tall they are, you know, like they're 30, 40 feet vaulted ceilings. It's just like, it's just so crazy. Um, just so much opulence in there and they didn't wanna actually let us in there unless you're a guest.

No. And so I was like, we're just going to take a look's, a look, look around. 

Kim: They were like, no, get out. Please leave. Well, no, we got, 

Isaac: we got some ways And CO is phenomenal at getting into places that we're [00:43:00] not supposed to be. . He's really good at it. And so 

Kim: they were like. Staying here and Koryo's like, Oh, 

Isaac: we have tickets for the beach club.

Like we're just walking in to see. So we made it a couple of rooms in, we made it past the lobby, which you're not supposed to like, they have guards standing there. We made it. I mean, we 

Jessie: were followed 

Isaac: and then, uh, and then like a country person sauce, like wandering around. It was like, you can't be here.

Cory: Well, yeah, cause we're, we're like in beach gear and, you know, I don't know what you're supposed to. We're in a very posh, posh hotel, but the door guy was wearing like stockings and like, you know, he was suited up and like a really not, you know, so like, um, we didn't look like that, but anyway, I think it was more or less because we were kind of looking around and wonder and they're like, oh, they can't belong if they're, you know, so, um, but we went across the street and we hung out at this beach club.

And it was just such a nice day. You know, you [00:44:00] drink, you drink, uh, wine or champagne and we had like lobster roll, which is the best lobster roll that I've ever had. And, um, I'm not a huge fan of, I'd say the shellfish myself, but I thought it was so, so delicious. We, you know. And so that was one of my favorite things because we were just chilling and hanging out and having a good time and having conversations.

So for me, that was really a lovely time. And the waiter was 

Kim: wonderful too. Like he was fun. Like, yeah, it was a really good time. 

Isaac: So I actually put the picture of the beach club that we went to behind us. That's nice. That 

All Laughing: was like 

Isaac: our first real like quote unquote beach club, really. So that was a very cool with you guys.

 And we had a great time at the beach club with you guys.

Uh, yeah, it was a very nice, relaxing, uh, day for sure. Cause I know Kim and I, like, we are usually like, go, go, go. Like we're adventuring and whatnot. So it was a cool change of pace for us to like, go and just relax. And like, just have a great time. Yeah. 

Cory: We like to [00:45:00] see stuff, but yeah, when we want to, there's like a day where we just want to chill and do almost nothing.

And, uh, and so that's typically what we like to do. Other than that, we like to go lay in a park and, you know, lay a park and look at the clouds or read a book or something like that. 

Jessie: Yeah. 

Cory: Awesome. Okay. You 

Isaac: guys are up with the question. 

Jessie: All right, where do you want to go next in Europe? What's your destination?

Oh, in Europe? Ooh, without 

Kim: thinking, again, without thinking, my first answer is Greece. There's a lot to do in Greece and there's a lot around Greece, so just because we go to Greece doesn't mean we're not going to go to the surrounding places because we definitely have to go to Croatia too. I know you guys have been there and that's like my whole ancestry and Origin of a lot of a lot of my family on my mom's side.

So it would be really cool. Just the buildings the water more sea I would love that. What about you? 

Isaac: Yeah, the first thing that popped in my head was spain Uh, because we just haven't been there. I know that's one of the like bigger countries We've been [00:46:00] told that spain is beautiful, but actually much more affordable than many of the other european countries love to go to barcelona and i've been a big, uh, barcelona fc fan for a long time So like that's one of my goals I always wanted to go when Messi was playing, but you know, now he's here in America.

So that's awesome. But you know, I still am a big Barcelona fan. So I'd love to go to the Camp Nou and, uh, you know, just experience that stadium, you know, cause I really think it's going to be an experience that like I've never had before. 

Kim: And what's the building in Spain, um, that has all the rainbow colors through the mosaics?

Oh, the Gaudi, the Gaudi. So Gaudi 

Isaac: Famiglia. Is that the one? 

Kim: Yeah, Famiglia. That's the one. Isn't 

Isaac: that still being built? Like, hasn't he been building that for a while? 

Kim: I think no different. No, I 

Cory: think it's I think it's complete. I mean, I from what I remember. Yeah, they built it a while. Gaudi is just this famous, famous architects, really bright, brilliant, eccentric as well.

 He's built some fantastic structures. And that is the most crazy, [00:47:00] insane, beautiful, um, I don't cathedral that we've ever been to. And it's crazy how the lights come in and how it's shaped. It's got some different, uh, it's got some different aspects about nature. You know, it kind of looks like beehive in some areas.

The interesting thing is that he did not build it. There's a mountain that's right next, um, uh, I can't remember what the name of the mountain is, but he didn't want to build it as tall as the mountain because he didn't want to supersede the height of what God had created in nature. Right. And so it's a very tall structure, but it's less than the elevation of the mountain, but it's a fantastic structure.

Yeah. 

Isaac: Yeah. Very cool. 

Cory: Yeah. Yeah. Gaudi. And you know, interestingly enough, uh, Gaudi, I remember I was listening to the history and he, he got run over. You know, before. You know, they could finish it essentially because yeah, they've been building that thing for a long time. I think, um, like 100 years. I think it's been over 100 years and correction.

I don't think they finished it. I think there's still more work to be done. He got ran over and it took them a while to realize he [00:48:00] was dead or that was him because he looked like a homeless person. Um, that's kind of how he dressed. But yeah, it was, you know, It's, yeah, but if you do go to Barcelona, you got to check out the Sagrada.

All the Gaudi, 

All Laughing: yeah. All the Gaudi 

Cory: stuff. 

Isaac: Definitely. I know we could be, we could talk for hours, but I know we're coming, uh, kind of close up to an hour mark and that's typically where we like to keep the podcast, but we do have an important question for you. Where is the most romantic vacation that you guys have gone to?

Cory: Oh, that's a good one. You know, we've, um. So our first trip that we ever took together was, uh, to Belize, and I would say, I don't know if this is the most romantic, but this is the first romantic one that we really took, um, because we, it was a week in, in, in, in Belize, and, and, I used a Groupon to get the, to buy it, you know?

Going 

Jessie: back to that bad habit, but not so bad habit. A 

Cory: Groupon to like buy the plane or just buy like the place? It was [00:49:00] like, yeah, it was so cheap. It was, I can't even tell you it was like, I don't know like a thousand bucks for like six days It was like 500 per person, um, and for the place and it didn't cover the plane or anything, but I was like, man, that's, that's great.

And you know, the, it was a resort. It was looked fabulous. And, and, um, and so, yeah, we took that, we, we did that trip down there and that was our first international trip that we took together. And I'll always remember it because. You know, so many cool things happen. Like we went to, um, this crystal cave where, you know, you, you, you ride into the jungle for an hour in a truck, uh, then you walk for an hour and then you, you go to a cave entrance and then you walk for an hour in the cave, which is really in the dark most of the time, all the time.

And you get to this giant cavernous room. And it looks like it snowed in there. It's just all white crystals. And it was so cool, um, to experience that. And, um, and one unique fact that I thought was interesting is there's a, [00:50:00] uh, our tour guide that took us out there, there's mosquitoes everywhere. So you gotta, you gotta put mosquitoes even on your shirt because they will pierce your shirt and get to you.

But this, like this guy, he got bit all the time, but. He never got mosquito bites. Like it was the craziest thing. And so I was like, you know, I don't know what it is. I got to study these people, right. These Belizeans, because yeah, for some reason they don't get, um, you know, that, and I think that's one of the most fantastic thing, but anyway, back to the romantic part.

Um, 

All Laughing: but 

Cory: yeah, it was just hanging out on the beach and, uh, and drinking, you know, they've Got these special, I can't remember the name of the drink, but that was for me. Um, one of the most special times, uh, and it was our first adventure and you never really forget your first. 

Isaac: Oh, yeah, and do you remember the name of that cave that you went to?

I think they really just call it crystal cave. 

Jessie: That's what i'm thinking, too 

Isaac: Okay, and what about you jesse? Yeah, do 

Jessie: you have the same answer? [00:51:00] I have a different answer It's a little closer to home. I would say after we left you in brookings We took the drive up the oregon coast to seattle and that was just Spectacular.

I, first of all, I've never seen a starfish before until we went to Brookings, and that was really cool. And so it was really nice just like driving up the coast, taking in all of the beauty, uh, and stopping at all these little towns along the way. I just was just in awe of the, the beauty in the United States.

Yeah. 

Isaac: Yeah, that, that, that part of, uh, Oregon, I actually tell people it almost looks like it's like European, the, the coastal line. It doesn't really look American a lot of the time. And especially, 

Kim: I think that's called the Samuel H. Boardman Scenic Corridor if I'm not mistaken. Yeah. And it's just like jaw dropping, otherworldly, like, does not look like America.

Like, with all the arches and the greenery growing on all the mountains that are just sitting in the middle of the ocean and [00:52:00] you're driving alongside it. Like, oh yeah, I gotta take a breath. Like, it's, it's seriously awesome. So, it's interesting to hear you say that's like one of the most romantic things to you and a starfish.

Because we had been to 

Isaac: Brookings beforehand and we wanted to go back and that's when we invited you guys to spend a month with us in Brookings. Because like, We, we had driven through that area and was so blown away by it. We're like, we got to go back and spend a month there. So we can go hit up like all these beaches.

 

Kim: Best place for starfish. You remember the name? It's 

Isaac: called Harris beach state park. 

Kim: And they had all the little tide pools too. Well, obviously. Is that the place 

Isaac: with the little keyhole? Like the actual 

Kim: keyhole. Yeah. 

Isaac: And apparently the sun will shine through that keyhole a couple times of year and create this incredible sunset.

And we were there, just happened to be there, one of those very few times that the sun was like lined up perfectly to shoot through the keyhole. I 

Kim: know. I didn't know what it happened so infrequently too. That's what I love about, like, whenever we travel together, It's like divine timing kind of things just happen [00:53:00] or what Isaac and I find even when we just travel together is like Things just operate really smoothly when we travel or if it feels a little clunky like at our home base We're like, oh we should just go travel things will run smoother, you know Yeah, it's 

Cory: and I think there's a certain aspect of that, you know, maybe karma But also just being willing to be flexible, right?

You know, we, uh, at this point we've stayed in, I mean, we're probably at one of Airbnb's top customers and I'll have some, like we were in Alaska. And there's a friend of ours, um, he, he has an Airbnb and he was like, what, what can I do to make this, you know, a better Airbnb? And I was like, you know, what's interesting is that we, we don't look at it as like, what can you do for us?

Because, you know, we've stayed at so many different Airbnbs. You know, all the way from igloos, you know, igloos and I am Finland all the way to like an airstream that we stayed in Seattle and like caves [00:54:00] almost, you know, like just different things. And so, um, at the end of the day, we're very flexible.

So it's like, not what you can provide us. In fact, we, we operate with like, if you just, if you gave us nothing or the bare necessities, like we can, we're going to do all right. Right. Like we, we bring our own pan. Um, and our ceramic pan, we love it. They're green pans. It's because, you know, you travel to some of these places and they don't have really great, um, kitchenware sometimes.

Um, and, and so we like to bring our own. I just, if it makes us feel a lot healthier, it makes us feel like we're not, you know, maybe poisoning ourselves with whatever. Can people buy this pan off like Amazon or? Yeah. I mean, just go to, just look up Google green pan. 

Isaac: We're going to put it on this blog. Uh, Corey will send us the exact pan.

Cause I want to know. Yeah. Yeah. It's, 

Cory: it's great. Like we travel with that. Jesse travels with an espresso machine.

Jessie: Oh, got it. You just can't use it in other countries, but if it's us plug outlet, you can do it. That's hilarious. [00:55:00] 

Cory: Yeah. So I think it's really about, yeah, being, being flexible, um, about what you don't have and just being willing to either bring your own or do without and figure it out, you know, that sort of thing.

Kim: And to add on to what Corey just said, because you mentioned something that is going to be so valuable if you're traveling from country to country for an extended period of time, I want everyone to go check out our website. It's fulltime2traveltime. com and we have made for you. The Ultimate European Packing Checklist, and it's going to include some things from Cory and Jesse, it's going to include some stuff from us, uh, last episode we talked about all the things that we did wrong, like the mistakes of the wrong luggage, you know, um, so yeah, check that out, it's going to be really exciting, and I'm curious to hear even more and About what should you have in there besides a, an espresso maker and 

All Laughing: a green 

Kim: pan.

Cory: Yeah. [00:56:00] Yeah. Sounds good. No, it's, it's, uh, it's, it's been awesome. I mean, we are truly blessed. Right. And so, but I think part of it is like, it's good to talk about these things because I think it's so, it's so possible for a lot of people. 

All Laughing: Right. 

Cory: And, um, you know, you don't have to like, we run businesses, um, all of us, you know, do and.

You don't even need to do that. Like you, you literally, like one of the best ways to travel is just have a full time job that is remote or virtual. Right. And that you can actually do because, you know, starting a business is actually very difficult and you know, it takes many years to get you, you know, and so traveling and trying to make income and enjoying yourself while starting a business, that can be a little tricky.

So my best ways to travel is just, you know, find a. A high paying enough job that, you know, allows you to do that. And like Jesse's in our motto is go anywhere, do anything. And, um, it's really nice. And, you know, it's, it helps because we're both, you know, we both, um, we're a couple and we both produce [00:57:00] income.

I mean, you know, my friend, uh, my friend Matt said, Hey, you guys are a couple of dinks. And I was like, what did you call me? And, uh, and he's like, Oh, dual, dual income, no kids. I was like, Oh yeah. So I was like, Oh, that makes, that's interesting. So, you know, I think that's a. You know, so it's really, it gets exceptionally easy if you're traveling with two people as a couple, um, from a kind of like a, you know, just like you can afford more things, right?

Either way, I mean, I definitely, it's really just so possible for folks and don't let the fact that you don't have a business or you, you know, you don't, um, you know, just take a stab and do it for a month, maybe, you know, you don't have to do it for like, we've been doing it full time for almost eight years.

You don't have to do that, like do it for two weeks even and see how you like it and just. You could even make it, like, you know, where you do it for a couple months out of the year. You don't have to do it full time like we do. 

Isaac: Yeah. Well, I know how Kim and I started, is we started with, like, once a month we'd go on a three day trip.

Then it became a five day trip. [00:58:00] Then it became a week trip. And we had done that for, like, seven or eight months before We actually packed our stuff and started traveling full time, and I thought that was a great experience to spend like a week, once a month going somewhere, because it really like, built our traveling muscles, which you kind of need to build up.

There's things you need to figure out as you go along. And their 

Kim: trust with each other, too. Yeah, so 

Isaac: yeah, I think, I think that's a kind of a good way to get started, and I know, um, I'm in the process of making a How to Travel Locally. course. Um, because that's one thing that I just didn't realize until I was, you know, in my late twenties, it's like, no matter where you are in the world, there's something amazing two hours away from you, within two hour drive, there's something phenomenal.

You just don't know what it's going to be until you, you explore it. And I know when we were in, uh, France we had gone to see one of our Favorite French bands deluxe. How do they pronounce it in 

Kim: French? 

Isaac: And we were going to go to a castle and then they canceled the concert like [00:59:00] last minute, uh, cause the concert venue hadn't sold enough tickets.

And like, I was pretty devastated. We, we, you know, we're really excited to see them, but Corey and Jesse was so good at adapting and figuring out, okay, what do we do instead? And it was like, Sunday, there weren't any cabs out. You somehow found us a cab and we went and we got to go have a picnic on the lavender fields of France.

All Laughing: Like, you 

Isaac: know, that was an amazing experience. It's such a cool experience. And that's like, you're talking about being flexible and exploring and like, that was like 40 minutes away from where we were staying. But if we hadn't gone out there, we wouldn't even known that there were like these legendary lavender farms, you know, there that.

Kim: Seriously, like, so amazing. Yeah, it was such a cool experience. I remember, like, you, Isaac, and Cory both took a nap in the lavender fields, and Jesse and I were like, oh my god, they're so cute. They're very cute. We just had, like, this giant picnic basket of a meal that they provided, like, with the cheeses and the breads and Jessie and I got like amazing, fresh lavender stuff.

I know I got shampoo. What did you get, Jessie? I got the [01:00:00] essential oil 

Jessie: and it lasted me for a really long time. I just, you got bar soap too, didn't you? It had like chunks of lavender. Oh yeah, it was really nice because it was like exfoliating. Yeah. Oh gosh. Yeah. Destiny 

Cory: like uses lavender every single night.

It helps her. It's the best. Yeah. Yeah. It's a really great essential oil for going to sleep or relaxing you. Right. So. Or healing 

Kim: your cuts. It's like, it has so many benefits. We just brought 

Isaac: like a bag of dried lavender and like just like kept it with us all throughout Europe and just like would put it in any new house that we Airbnb we went to.

I kept it in 

Kim: my suitcase. All my clothes smelled like fresh lavender. Oh, that's so nice. 

Cory: I remember like we were, gosh, where were we? We were somewhere in Europe. And so there was a lavender plant and that we walked by. And so, um, was it, was it there? It might've been New Zealand actually. And I just kind of like grabbed a little piece of the lavender off and I kind of rubbed it in my hands.

And then, you know, Jesse, like. Sniffed it, and I think she snorted it up her nose, like she sniffed the same 

All Laughing: [01:01:00] thing. I was like, where did it 

Isaac: go? 

All Laughing: So you just 

Isaac: have a little piece of lavender just stuck in there? Lodged in the sinus. Right up there. 

Jessie: Hilarious. I really loved it. 

Isaac: Well, guys, we want to thank you so much for being on the podcast.

You guys are two of the coolest people we know, some of the most traveled people. You really, you know, inspired us a lot in traveling and just, you know, going with the flow and just figuring things out when they don't always go correctly, which is always going to happen when you travel. So first of all, just huge thanks for being on this podcast and we're definitely going to have you on again.

Before we sign off, um, I'd love to hear what you guys are working on that you're passionate about right now. If you want to share your projects and, uh, give a shout out to whatever you're working on, take it away. 

Cory: Yeah. So we've been working on this project together, uh, called story Lee and we created an AI that interviews folks and tells their story.

And so it's a really cool kind of give back project. You can check it out at S. T. O. R. L. Y. Dot. A. I. Originally we, [01:02:00] we, we put it together because we really wanted people to write their stories. And, you know, pass them on to their kids or grandkids and, and, and the, and it started off as like stories would live forever.

And so that's why we initially did it. And, you know, and initially the idea came because my, my dad was a really great writer and he wanted to retire and write detective novels. And so he worked all his life to get to that point. And then at the age of 50, he got plasma cell myeloma, which is a, you know, it's a very, um, aggressive cancer.

And it gets in the bone marrow. And so he, you know, after doing chemotherapy and having surgeries his body gave out on him after two years. So I always kind of wondered, uh, what kind of stories he would have left behind and he would have written and left behind. And so that was the initial, I guess, seed of, of where the idea came from.

And so we put it out there now we're working with nonprofits. So if you know, if you are a nonprofit or, you know, a nonprofit, um, we're working with [01:03:00] nonprofits to be able to help. them collect the stories of the people they serve. And it's a really cool project. We've collected thousands of stories, and we're helping nonprofits really turn those stories into media pieces so that way they can share the Experience of what they've created.

So that's one of the things really cool things that we're working on and then uh, jesse over to you. 

Jessie: I was gonna say the same thing I'm, just really I feel very fortunate about this time that we get to spend together while traveling But then also this time that we get to spend together While creating a business.

So we both have two separate businesses that we're working on. And then now the second one is something that we get to work on together. So, and I just want to say thank you to the You two as well. So I just feel fortunate that we're friends with you and that we get to spend time with you and live our lives in such fun ways.

Kim: Definitely. And we didn't even get to tell the snail story today. We're going to save that. That's a whole episode. It really is. 

All Laughing: We talked about snails. Who [01:04:00] killed the snail? Shoot. Alright. 

Isaac: I can't wait. Awesome. Well, thank you everyone, uh, for listening. Thank you, Corey and Jesse for being on. Definitely check out Storlie.

I know I got to I get to be a part of just advising here and there with Storly and I got to come on and listen to some of these, uh, non for profits and their stories and wow, are they inspiring, but you know, some of them could tell a story and some of them just didn't really know how to tell the story at all.

So what Storly is doing is really helping those people because they're doing amazing work. So. Awesome. Thanks so much everyone. And thanks for listening. And, uh, until next time. Adventure. Oh, yo. Oh, yeah. 

Kim: It's time to say it. Okay. Ready? Ready? Ready. Thank you for joining us on Full Time to Travel Time. We'll 

All Laughing: get it.

We'll 

Kim: get it. We'll get it. 

All Laughing: I nailed 

Isaac: it. 

Kim: It's 

All Laughing: amazing. 

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